40 mph cruisers who speed up when overtaken...
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[quote=One thing that makes you think "knob" thread]Bloom and Wake van this morning. Creeping along at 40-45mph on a national speed limit road until I try to pass then the driver decides to floor it. Despite supposedly being limited to fifty due to the weight of the thing. It took nearly a quarter of a mile to pass it and I was at 66mph. If anything had been coming the other way I would have been in trouble. The van then sat on my back bumper for the next two miles. Nearly hit me as I slowed for the forty zone. I lost him as I entered a dual carriageway I waited for a gap that was big enough for me and not him.
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superman84 said:
If youre that bothered OP buy a faster car then and/or learn to drive properly. If not chill out and stop trying to overtake every car you have decided is going too slow- as they might just embarrass you. Remember you can't change the behaviour of others. No matter how much you cry about it 
You make me laugh.Edited by superman84 on Thursday 26th July 18:29
I'll just leave this here
Overtaking
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Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
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Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Which proves all this tosh wrong
Overtaking
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Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Which proves all this tosh wrong
superman84 said:
If you had a faster car than the one in front and knew how to drive it properly this wouldn't be a problem.
superman84 said:
That's your problem not the car in front's.
superman84 said:
No, what performance they decide to use is entirely their choice.
Edited by Robb F on Thursday 26th July 18:37
These days I am more often the 40-driver than the overtaker. However, I would still consider speeding up whilst being overtaken to be a particular brand of tossery that is worthy of the OP's complaint. When I'm bimbling along, I always try to make things as easy as possible if there's someone behind who wants to pass. Trying to be competitive or getting upset at 'queue jumping' is the mark of the very lowest cretin; the sort of behaviour which makes it genuinely tempting to advocate (or at least fantasise about) dragging them from their car and administering a sound beating with their own slip-on shoes.
I also wonder whether this sort of behaviour (which has always been with us but perhaps is now more prevalent) is having another unwanted side-effect. Increasingly, if I'm not in a hurry then I end up being followed by a driver who seems to prefer driving right up my chuff to performing a perfectly safe overtake when the opportunity arises. Perhaps they are all people who've previously been caught out by idiots speeding up and no longer dare to try?
I also wonder whether this sort of behaviour (which has always been with us but perhaps is now more prevalent) is having another unwanted side-effect. Increasingly, if I'm not in a hurry then I end up being followed by a driver who seems to prefer driving right up my chuff to performing a perfectly safe overtake when the opportunity arises. Perhaps they are all people who've previously been caught out by idiots speeding up and no longer dare to try?
That sentence made me giggle more than it had any right to!
Robb F said:
I'll just leave this here
Overtaking
168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Which proves all this tosh wrong
So you stick to all speed limits and obey every aspect of the high way code at all times?? I'm not condoning it I'm just saying if your cars not quick enough stop whining about it, it won't change anything. As a rule I don't attempt to overtake anything which may cause me problems mid pass.Overtaking
168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Which proves all this tosh wrong
superman84 said:
If you had a faster car than the one in front and knew how to drive it properly this wouldn't be a problem.
superman84 said:
That's your problem not the car in front's.
superman84 said:
No, what performance they decide to use is entirely their choice.
Edited by Robb F on Thursday 26th July 18:37
Edited by superman84 on Thursday 26th July 18:46
superman84 said:
So you stick to all speed limits and obey every aspect of the high way code at all times?? I'm not condoning it I'm just saying if your cars not quick enough stop whining about it, it won't change anything. As a rule I don't attempt to overtake anything which may cause me problems mid pass.
No I don't. How is that relevant?Edited by superman84 on Thursday 26th July 18:44
I was pointing out you were wrong by saying it is the overtaking driver's responsibility if the other speeds up.
As a rule I overtake people who are in my way. If they decide they want to drive dangerously, that's not my fault.
You come up behind a Audi RS6 doing 35 in a 60 zone. Would you choose to sit behind them or overtake?
Robb F said:
No I don't. How is that relevant?
I was pointing out you were wrong by saying it is the overtaking driver's responsibility if the other speeds up.
As a rule I overtake people who are in my way. If they decide they want to drive dangerously, that's not my fault.
You come up behind a Audi RS6 doing 35 in a 60 zone. Would you choose to sit behind them or overtake?
It's not your fault but it's your problem - that's my point, the rules are irrelevant.I was pointing out you were wrong by saying it is the overtaking driver's responsibility if the other speeds up.
As a rule I overtake people who are in my way. If they decide they want to drive dangerously, that's not my fault.
You come up behind a Audi RS6 doing 35 in a 60 zone. Would you choose to sit behind them or overtake?
Re: the Audi I'd probably drop it into second and fancy my chances that I can catch him off guard assuming im feeling that impatient. If that fails then fair play you can't win them all. If it was something much quicker I wouldn't bother, maybe flash the headlights to see if that wakes them up.
The only things I consider when overtaking are:
a) do I have the space
b) do i need/want to get past
I would never expect someone to speed up when I try to overtake as it is clearly A1 assholery and has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative performace capabilities of the two vehicles.
Saying "get a faster car" is in effect saying that it is to be expected that people attempt to kill you when you try and overtake.
a) do I have the space
b) do i need/want to get past
I would never expect someone to speed up when I try to overtake as it is clearly A1 assholery and has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative performace capabilities of the two vehicles.
Saying "get a faster car" is in effect saying that it is to be expected that people attempt to kill you when you try and overtake.
militantmandy said:
The only things I consider when overtaking are:
a) do I have the space
b) do i need/want to get past
I would never expect someone to speed up when I try to overtake as it is clearly A1 assholery and has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative performace capabilities of the two vehicles.
Saying "get a faster car" is in effect saying that it is to be expected that people attempt to kill you when you try and overtake.
Exactly. Have you seen what other drivers are like?!a) do I have the space
b) do i need/want to get past
I would never expect someone to speed up when I try to overtake as it is clearly A1 assholery and has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative performace capabilities of the two vehicles.
Saying "get a faster car" is in effect saying that it is to be expected that people attempt to kill you when you try and overtake.
DonkeyApple said:
10 years ago when someone saw you prepping they would help you.
Today in Britain everyone is small minded and mentally feeble so you don't give them any warning. Sit back calmly and wait and then bang it past before they get the idea of trying to kill you for your audacity.
Today in Britain everyone is small minded and mentally feeble so you don't give them any warning. Sit back calmly and wait and then bang it past before they get the idea of trying to kill you for your audacity.
Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
Just nail it past and ignore any light flashing or speeding up on their part.
superman84 said:
It's not your fault but it's your problem - that's my point, the rules are irrelevant.
Re: the Audi I'd probably drop it into second and fancy my chances that I can catch him off guard assuming im feeling that impatient. If that fails then fair play you can't win them all. If it was something much quicker I wouldn't bother, maybe flash the headlights to see if that wakes them up.
Your point seems quite clear that you think the OP shouldn't be annoyed at people speeding up when he overtakes them, claiming that it is his fault because they have a faster car. You were quite clear you that he shouldn't "cry about it".Re: the Audi I'd probably drop it into second and fancy my chances that I can catch him off guard assuming im feeling that impatient. If that fails then fair play you can't win them all. If it was something much quicker I wouldn't bother, maybe flash the headlights to see if that wakes them up.
I think it is perfectly reasonable having a cheeky whinge on the internet about people driving dangerously (not my word, its in the highway code)
Enjoy sitting behind slow cars because they have a bigger engine that you, I'll continue overtaking them.
Robb F said:
You're point seems quite clear that you think the OP shouldn't be annoyed at people speeding up when he overtakes them, claiming that it is his fault because they have a faster car. You were quite clear you that he shouldn't "cry about it".
I think it is perfectly reasonable having a cheeky whinge on the internet about people driving dangerously (not my word, its in the highway code)
Enjoy sitting behind slow cars because they have a bigger engine that you, I'll continue overtaking them.
But as I have a pretty fast car this almost never happens to me. Either I'm comfortable going slow for a bit or I can nail it past without any issue. And if I can't I respect the fact they must have something pretty special even if they are a toss bag, they probably thought i was racing anyway.I think it is perfectly reasonable having a cheeky whinge on the internet about people driving dangerously (not my word, its in the highway code)
Enjoy sitting behind slow cars because they have a bigger engine that you, I'll continue overtaking them.
Robb F said:
superman84 said:
It's not your fault but it's your problem - that's my point, the rules are irrelevant.
Re: the Audi I'd probably drop it into second and fancy my chances that I can catch him off guard assuming im feeling that impatient. If that fails then fair play you can't win them all. If it was something much quicker I wouldn't bother, maybe flash the headlights to see if that wakes them up.
Your point seems quite clear that you think the OP shouldn't be annoyed at people speeding up when he overtakes them, claiming that it is his fault because they have a faster car. You were quite clear you that he shouldn't "cry about it".Re: the Audi I'd probably drop it into second and fancy my chances that I can catch him off guard assuming im feeling that impatient. If that fails then fair play you can't win them all. If it was something much quicker I wouldn't bother, maybe flash the headlights to see if that wakes them up.
I think it is perfectly reasonable having a cheeky whinge on the internet about people driving dangerously (not my word, its in the highway code)
Enjoy sitting behind slow cars because they have a bigger engine that you, I'll continue overtaking them.
TBH, if engine size was the only factor, I would wind up never looking forward, as I am quite keen on 125cc motorcycles - you can ride them at 100 percent of their ability safely on the road, and you need never worry about your licence. (Which is a full one)
Mine spend 90 odd % of the time they are ridden at full throttle, Revved all the way to the redline in every gear safe to do so, pretty much ignoring NSL, like anyone else on here. (All other speed limits are respected obviously, riding to the conditions.)
This I find quite fun and relaxing, and because you are only ever doing 70 or so, it's safe and reasonable progress, if slow.
Then you have the fustration of being caught behind someone doing 40/50. Now, it's possible to pass, but I only ever do moves which I'm certain are safe (If something goes wrong, I'm the one who gets hurt afterall) part of the reason why I let the Renault have a look first, not that I would blindly follow on if he/she/it went for it, afterall, there might only be space for them to get past, and being side by side with someone with nowhere to go isn't apppealing...
superman84 said:
Exactly. Have you seen what other drivers are like?!
Sadly, I do find myself agreeing with you on this...But, it shouldn't be like this.
Balmoral said:
yes:
Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
Just nail it past and ignore any light flashing or speeding up on their part.
I still do it.Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
Just nail it past and ignore any light flashing or speeding up on their part.
djad1200 said:
just get an Aerial Atom for a 'toy' and blow his windows in as you pass the old fart
The only trouble is funding it.I'd have one in a instant.
Bisonhead said:
Raize said:
People speed up on straights you know. Maybe if you didn't overtake as soon as you left a series of bends they might get up to speed. Not everyone likes G-force on their commute.
Give the man a ban! This is PistonHeads...not BRAKE!It seems bikers hate this more than most.
"Undertook" one today who was pootling along in the RH lane.
He got quite upset and cut in front of me at the next set of lights.
He got even more upset when I overtook him the second time.
I can't see the issue if you want to go slowly - fine but why get upset just because others want to go faster.
"Undertook" one today who was pootling along in the RH lane.
He got quite upset and cut in front of me at the next set of lights.
He got even more upset when I overtook him the second time.
I can't see the issue if you want to go slowly - fine but why get upset just because others want to go faster.
Balmoral said:
Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
Indeed. Usually it's me that's concentrating and aiming to drive as swiftly as the road and conditions will safely allow, and thus tend to be wanting to overtake the 40mph nimblers. But sometimes when I'm taking it easy, or usually when there's a bike behind, I'll consciously just ease off a tad and drift to the left of my lane to make it easy for them to pass and thus indicate to them when it's fine/appropriate for them to do so - especially if it's a bike that's being ridden well, rather than in a t
ttish manner. I don't signal or wave as that could be misinterpreted, I just view my actions as courteous "motoring body language".Sadly it's pretty much never returned.
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