Insurance for a 17 year old, just passed his test. £4,000+

Insurance for a 17 year old, just passed his test. £4,000+

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Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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SystemParanoia said:
alfabadass said:
There's only one thing for it.

Insurance should not be required by law.

That'll shake things up a bit!
LOL!

every industry where insurance is completely optional.. cycling for instance, the prices are low low low and very competitive

when they have a stranglehold monopoly the prices goto the mental levels they are now
Third-party covered by road licence tax (or whatever the hell it's called these days) and you can get fire, theft or comprehensive cover if you want.
Something similar is done in Australia, SA, et al. and it works quite well.

Wh00sher

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1,590 posts

219 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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98elise said:
Young male drivers need to stop crashing so much. Thats whats driving their premiums up. .
Obviously ! I thought the GPS systems would help that, knowing their every move was being recorded would do slow them down, but the premiums don`t reflect this.

I`ll get him to ring LV tonight. Thanks for the heads up.

T7G

330 posts

151 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Do you have any old drivers in the family?
I found adding my 86 year old grandad as an additional driver reduced my premium considerably (40%).

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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you can invent named drivers if you want... as they will never be driving the car it really doesn't matter if they exist or not! biggrin

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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SystemParanoia said:
you can invent named drivers if you want... as they will never be driving the car it really doesn't matter if they exist or not! biggrin
They have to be a real person with a valid driving licence.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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RegMolehusband said:
I feel so sorry for youngsters having to pay these criminal premiums. The industry needs a shake-up.

E.g. Serious extra training for new drivers, including attitude, and lower premiums as a result. Sort out the whiplash claim industry.

Edited by RegMolehusband on Monday 30th July 08:38
Never happen as can be seen by the number of threads even on a site like this extolling the virtues of accident managment companies.

If on an enthusiast site like this people can't see the link between being indignant when a victim of an RTA, and moaning about increased insurance premiums, then there is no hope for the wider society

Wh00sher

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1,590 posts

219 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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T7G said:
Do you have any old drivers in the family?
I found adding my 86 year old grandad as an additional driver reduced my premium considerably (40%).
Not quite that old, but late 60`s, so we`ll try adding them tonight and report back.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
SystemParanoia said:
you can invent named drivers if you want... as they will never be driving the car it really doesn't matter if they exist or not! biggrin
They have to be a real person with a valid driving licence.
could be a good time to take up hand bag snatching! lol

r129sl

9,518 posts

204 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Have you tried speaking to a specialist broker on the telephone? While the web is very convenient, these days rarely is it the cheapest option, not least because it is dominated by a few big players who know you are unlikely to shop around beyond the web. My first wife had five fault accidents in 18 months and became pretty much uninsurable but a specialist broker sorted us out very reasonably. These days I insure all five of my cars through a broker and they always beat the comparison site prices.

matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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I'm just emerging from my teenage youth hehe

Realistically the only viable option for my first year was to be a named driver. By the end of that year I was driving the car much more than my mum, so I had a look at renewal time and it was cheaper to have it on my own insurance.

I paid 1800 for the first year and more or less then same for the second.
It hurts.

rocketdogbert

136 posts

151 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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T7G said:
Do you have any old drivers in the family?
I found adding my 86 year old grandad as an additional driver reduced my premium considerably (40%).
+1 to this, my niece and nephew have always done this, typically it cuts the premium in half

Grandparents are 73 and 77

John

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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People in 'a relationship' are better bets to the insurance industry.

add a young lady to the policy as a partner (she doesn't even have to know about it, she will never be driving the car.

as a kid, i always did this, and it dropped the premiums significantly.

also, try co-op, for my first ever year, they were loads cheaper than anyone else, subsequent years however!!!!!

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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matthias73 said:
Realistically the only viable option for my first year was to be a named driver. By the end of that year I was driving the car much more than my mum, so I had a look at renewal time and it was cheaper to have it on my own insurance.
Really? When I was 17 (3 years ago) I stupidly insured myself as a named driver on the Astra, no knowing that my Mum's NCD wouldn't be applied to the policy.

Once that was amended, it worked out exactly the same as it would have if I had just gone on my own policy. And I didn't get a years NCD grumpy

I was declared as the main driver of the car though, so I believe that is not fronting?

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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SystemParanoia said:
LEI LEI LEI like your life depends on it.

take on the policy claiming he's on provisional.. then claim he's passed a week later, keeping the lower premium.


if i did everything 100% truthful for my mrs, wed be paying over £2000 for insurance on a 1.0 suzuki swift.

lies, truth bending and a little deception gets in down to £900


thieving fkers
Well done on paying £900 to not be insured.

rofl

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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If you take out the policy while on a provisional licence, then change it to a full licence, they just charge you more! That's what they did with me anyway, I had to fork out an extra £300 or so when I passed my test.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Soovy said:
SystemParanoia said:
LEI LEI LEI like your life depends on it.

take on the policy claiming he's on provisional.. then claim he's passed a week later, keeping the lower premium.


if i did everything 100% truthful for my mrs, wed be paying over £2000 for insurance on a 1.0 suzuki swift.

lies, truth bending and a little deception gets in down to £900


thieving fkers
i pay under £200 to insure my 4x4 .. that is a fair price

roadcars all cost WAY more.. yet have smaller engines and less spec in comparison


Well done on paying £900 to not be insured.

rofl

StottyZr

6,860 posts

164 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Usually I come on these threads and can find a much cheaper quote than the OP suggests. In this case I can't! The cheapest I've found for a 17yr and 2month old is £3730 for 10months TPF&T on a Pug 106 1.5d frown

Wait until he's 18 is my advice. Although buying his car now could be a good idea, insurance tends to be cheaper the longer you've owned the car.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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Unbelievable.

Scooter time?

madbadger

11,565 posts

245 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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CraigyMc said:
# Wait until next year as that's when gender equality in insurance kicks in. http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/insurance/20...

C
And do we think young lads insurance will drop £3000 or do we think the girls will go up £3000?

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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madbadger said:
And do we think young lads insurance will drop £3000 or do we think the girls will go up £3000?
From what I can gather, insurance for girls is meant to go up a lot, and insurance for young lads is meant to come down a small amount.

Whether that will actually happen or not is a totally different question!