Using a car engine to power a house.
Discussion
Papa Hotel said:
Astra Dan said:
Papa Hotel said:
I wouldn't have thought you'd need to bother. A car gets serviced, what, once every 12,000 miles on average? If the car isn't moving, the engine doesn't need serviced.
Er....Rammy76 said:
CBR JGWRR said:
I was thinking about kettles, and realised at peak power one of the bikes puts out enough power to run 5/6 kettles, so a fair way to powering the house...
Which lead to the thought/question of why not have V8s at the end of the street running a generator providing cheapish power and a nice soundtrack?
Inefficiency mainly.Which lead to the thought/question of why not have V8s at the end of the street running a generator providing cheapish power and a nice soundtrack?
Quite the opposite
http://www.aberdeenheatandpower.co.uk
Just they use a V12 not a V8 can't have everything
Your main wastage of energy from any engine is pissing heat into the environment from the exhaust and engine cooling. Capture that heat and pump it round the houses to give hot water and heating and you are looking at big savings
Get your V8 running off mains gas and you have a rather sensible idea.
Papa Hotel said:
I wouldn't have thought you'd need to bother. A car gets serviced, what, once every 12,000 miles on average? If the car isn't moving, the engine doesn't need serviced.
Even noticed that generators, boats, tractors and similar equipment record hours rather than miles?
t on the wall of a mental hospital. 
CBR JGWRR said:
cuprabob said:
That'll be what generators do, all be it without being V8 :-)
...now give the computer back to Matron
Ah....now give the computer back to Matron
Edited by cuprabob on Sunday 12th August 17:53
I thought somebody must have done it by now...
300bhp/ton said:
CBR JGWRR said:
cuprabob said:
That'll be what generators do, all be it without being V8 :-)
...now give the computer back to Matron
Ah....now give the computer back to Matron
Edited by cuprabob on Sunday 12th August 17:53
I thought somebody must have done it by now...
bert11 said:
natural gas fuelled combined heat and power engines are often used in larger buildings; 4 cylinder internal combustion engines
You beat me to it!This sort of technology might not be limited to large buildings. VW are in the process of developing a system called SchwarmStrom (Swarm Power) that uses miniature gas-fired power plants based on it's existing car engines The engines would be installed in houses and provide heating, hot-water and electricity with excess power sold back to power grid.
VW estimate that with enough SchwarmStorm units they would produce electricity equivalent to two nuclear reactors over the course of year, which might be a useful measure given that Germany committed to decommission all it's nuclear plants after the disaster at the Fukushima nuclear power plant.
But no lovely V8 petrol burble, think thousands of VAG 1.9 diesel engines running on gas, each in an enclosure about the size of an industrial washing machine in your garage or basement!
Papa Hotel said:
KardioKate said:
I do believe Mr Hotel was not being entirely serious. See his reply to my post.
I love how everyone is just so keen to jump on a perceived moron they can't see an obvious joke.
thinfourth2 said:
Actually
Quite the opposite
http://www.aberdeenheatandpower.co.uk
Just they use a V12 not a V8 can't have everything
Your main wastage of energy from any engine is pissing heat into the environment from the exhaust and engine cooling. Capture that heat and pump it round the houses to give hot water and heating and you are looking at big savings
Get your V8 running off mains gas and you have a rather sensible idea.
I'm talking about THIS particular scenario i.e. hook up a V8 at the end of your street to a generator!Quite the opposite
http://www.aberdeenheatandpower.co.uk
Just they use a V12 not a V8 can't have everything
Your main wastage of energy from any engine is pissing heat into the environment from the exhaust and engine cooling. Capture that heat and pump it round the houses to give hot water and heating and you are looking at big savings
Get your V8 running off mains gas and you have a rather sensible idea.
Even with capturing the heat and using it for other purposes, having individual engines will never be as efficient as CCGT's or large combustion plants which generally kick out enough power for 4 cities the size of Birmingham.
Rammy76 said:
thinfourth2 said:
Actually
Quite the opposite
http://www.aberdeenheatandpower.co.uk
Just they use a V12 not a V8 can't have everything
Your main wastage of energy from any engine is pissing heat into the environment from the exhaust and engine cooling. Capture that heat and pump it round the houses to give hot water and heating and you are looking at big savings
Get your V8 running off mains gas and you have a rather sensible idea.
I'm talking about THIS particular scenario i.e. hook up a V8 at the end of your street to a generator!Quite the opposite
http://www.aberdeenheatandpower.co.uk
Just they use a V12 not a V8 can't have everything
Your main wastage of energy from any engine is pissing heat into the environment from the exhaust and engine cooling. Capture that heat and pump it round the houses to give hot water and heating and you are looking at big savings
Get your V8 running off mains gas and you have a rather sensible idea.
Even with capturing the heat and using it for other purposes, having individual engines will never be as efficient as CCGT's or large combustion plants which generally kick out enough power for 4 cities the size of Birmingham.
The way VW look at it seems like a better idea to my mind over this scale.
Rammy76 said:
CBR JGWRR said:
The principle is the same thing though, just the scale of it - one large building (The Aberdeen place) to lots of smaller ones. (VW)
The way VW look at it seems like a better idea to my mind over this scale.
Why do you think that?The way VW look at it seems like a better idea to my mind over this scale.
Also, at higher demand levels it will be quieter, and not everyone likes the sound of V8s...
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