Dirty parking protest

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Raify

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6,552 posts

249 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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"Disgusting of Tunbridge Wells"

A set of offices near to me have been taken over by AXA. There aren't enough car park spaces for the employees, and they're parking on the road.

Much to the annoyance of the local residents, who have taken to smearing dog crap on their cars yikes

"What's wrong with a can of Red Bull?" asked a powerfully built local company director



forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Ridiculous misdirection of the local residents' understandable annoyance. The action should be directed at the company itself, and the poor public transport infrastructure that obliges workers to drive to work. Taking it out, in a disgusting way, on people who are just trying their best to go about their business will not endear them to anyone.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Sounds daft. All they need to do is get the council to implement a "two hours parking or resident's permit" scheme. Job done.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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forzaminardi said:
Ridiculous misdirection of the local residents' understandable annoyance. The action should be directed at the company itself, and the poor public transport infrastructure that obliges workers to drive to work. Taking it out, in a disgusting way, on people who are just trying their best to go about their business will not endear them to anyone.
+1

The owners of the cars are just trying to get to work, I doubt any of them want to park on the road. Idiot residents and locals really.

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Sounds daft. All they need to do is get the council to implement a "two hours parking or resident's permit" scheme. Job done.
this

as currently the axa staff have every right to park on the public road

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
this

as currently the axa staff have every right to park on the public road
Ha, but they don't want that (according to the link).

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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This is what comes of Planning Permission with limited Parking because they reckon "Locals" will have the jobs or Public Transport will do the job. You either setup in a Transport Hub or allow Parking. I believe Boots in Nottingham has similar problems.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Sounds daft. All they need to do is get the council to implement a "two hours parking or resident's permit" scheme. Job done.
Sadly all that does is attack the people who aren't at fault though.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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telecat said:
This is what comes of Planning Permission with limited Parking because they reckon "Locals" will have the jobs or Public Transport will do the job. You either setup in a Transport Hub or allow Parking. I believe Boots in Nottingham has similar problems.
This. AXA are probably being prevented from having adequate parking by the council.

Raify

Original Poster:

6,552 posts

249 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Most of the rest of town has resident's parking schemes, because of train commuters. This area is just far enough away from the station to have escaped so far...

Edited to add Google map of the building: https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=51.126034,0.27928...



Edited by Raify on Tuesday 14th August 09:24

Some Gump

12,701 posts

187 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Bloody lefties' anti car policies are showing to also be anti workforce, and anti business as side effects. What a suprise.

You'd think that either the council planners would have factored in parking when agreeing it, or maybe even somone would resolve it proactively - after all, they are the town's biggest employer. Tak about biting the hand that feeds you...

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Reminds me of an incident a long time ago in Glasgow, where I drove and parked at an Underground station to then get the tube to work. Of course unless you were in by 6am the 'official' car park was full, so your alternative was to could park on the street in a housing estate. And estate made up of wide roads, lots of unrestricted parking spaces etc. Occassionally you'd see someone parked stupidly, blocking others or on grass verges, but by and large it was fine, not worse than any other virtually city-centre street. There were no sign-posted restrictions or lines painted on the road, so if you parked sensibly you were fine. Of course I could understand the residents being a bit fed up of people parking in 'their' street, but in all honesty it wasn't that bad, I suppose it would be frustrating if you arrived home at 9am and couldn't park nearby, but how many people would that apply to? Anyway, the locals went totally nuts and started sticking signs on windows saying "DONT PARK HERE THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY" (it wasn't) and even, apparently, letting tyres down - as if that would help people move their cars. I returned from work one evening to find mine and several other cars with these signs apparently super-glued to both front side windows in such a way to be dangerously blocking visibility. Some people just drove off but me and some others spent 15 minutes removing these stickers as best we could. In the meantime the local busybodies spotted us and came out in a Ford Fiesta-driving posse, equipped with threateningly sensible footwear and tweed caps, to confront us. They continued with the 'private property' line and threatened to call the police, which we suggested they do, so they might investigate the spate of car vandalism in the area and give advice as to what to do when your legally-parked car has its windows covered with dangerously-positioned signs. Changing tack, they asked that if there was an emergency, how would an ambulance or fire engine get in? One of my fellow renegade parkers offered his opinion, suggesting that his experience driving fire engines for a living led him to think there was more than enough room for access and manouver. Things seemed to a little hot-tempered at this point, so I and my fellow renegade parkers deposited the remnants of the sticker things on the bonnet of the posse's Fiesta and drove off, to much muttering and nashing of (false) teeth. Fortunately perhaps, short sightedness and/or lack of car model knowledge and/or memory loss apparently meant my car was not recognised for retribution as I never had the stickers applied again. However a few months later, fortunately after I no longer had to go there, the council introduced "resident's only" parking - perhaps pursuing this option first might have saved everyone's blood pressure, least of all the local residents during their confrontation with common sense.

A polite note under the windscreen wiper acknowledging that these workers are in a difficult position but that a little care in ensuring they are parked safely and responsibly might have only a slight effect, but this in conjunction with campaigning to the company and local council might achieve something beyond p*ssing off other people.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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0000 said:
telecat said:
This is what comes of Planning Permission with limited Parking because they reckon "Locals" will have the jobs or Public Transport will do the job. You either setup in a Transport Hub or allow Parking. I believe Boots in Nottingham has similar problems.
This. AXA are probably being prevented from having adequate parking by the council.
yes

but they'll have loads and loads of cycle bays rolleyes

easiest solution is to find an off site car park and buy a couple of shuttle buses

CraigyMc

16,419 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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telecat said:
I believe Boots in Nottingham has similar problems.
I've been there a few times and never had a problem parking on the site.
I doubt there are all that many issues with local residents because the site is so huge you'd have to walk about 15 minutes to park near housing and then get to the buildings you're heading for.

I could be wrong: obviously I don't live there.

C

Frimley111R

15,676 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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So AXA move to a huge building without parking places for their staff. Genius. You can't blame staff or residents. Its very hard to see how this can be resolved without, perhaps, park and ride schemes.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Frimley111R said:
So AXA move to a huge building without parking places for their staff. Genius. You can't blame staff or residents. Its very hard to see how this can be resolved without, perhaps, park and ride schemes.
But who gave planning for a building that doesn't have enough parking for the number of people who could work there?


I can understand it might piss residents off, but they don't own the roads, have the option to move if they really don't like it and can always call the Police if a parked car is actually causing an offense.

It's the not the staff's fault, all they do is want to go to work to try and scrape a living, the last thing they need is hassle simply parking their car.

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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It's quite a common problem. Companies using public parking areas that is, not people smearing st on each other's cars.

Round here there's a garage that sneakily takes all of its customer cars and parks them on a public road about half a mile away. And on the way home I pass a fledgling courier firm that parks half a dozen Transits nose to tail in what looks like residential parking for the nearby houses.

sjg

7,454 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
But who gave planning for a building that doesn't have enough parking for the number of people who could work there?
A council that actually wanted the building for themselves but Axa threw a strop and threatened to leave the town, so they got it instead.

I think when it was Land Registry there was only about 200 people there so plenty of parking - Axa are squeezing in a few times that.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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sjg said:
A council that actually wanted the building for themselves but Axa threw a strop and threatened to leave the town, so they got it instead.

I think when it was Land Registry there was only about 200 people there so plenty of parking - Axa are squeezing in a few times that.
But still, it's not hard to work out that a building could easily allow 'x' number of workers and few buildings remain with a sole purpose or non changing workforces.

CraigyMc

16,419 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
who gave planning for a building that doesn't have enough parking for the number of people who could work there?
In my experience, not only would they give permission for an office location without sufficient parking, they wouldn't actually give parking permission for the right number of cars anyway, in order to "encourage alternatives".

They do it for housing too: You can have 1.2 spaces for each 3-bedroom house around the new developments in this area, and no more.

It's insanity, obviously, but someone has to think of the children.

C