Dirty parking protest

[Pothole]

This is a nationwide problem, caused by MMGW bullst envirolaws. I use my motorcycle for commuting in all weathers because the waiting list for our overflow car park is currently at 5 years plus.

To their credit the company has arranged a shuttle bus from the city centre bus station and leased some spaces in the park and ride car park about half a mile away (this is usually 90% empty, of course).

Our building is on a business park and all surrounding roads are double yellow lined. There are quite a few empty business units, but these are firmly fenced off, presumably do stop DAYLies from taking up residence.

I'm sure the Axa problem could be reduced if some of their employees parked more sensibly, but that would mean getting up a bit earlier and applying common sense. (and perhaps dropping their assumption of entitlement) I would be willing to place a large bet that a lot of the worst offenders in terms of particularly poor parking which blocks residents in and winds them up are under 30 if the staff demographic is anything like ours.

[300bhp/ton]

CraigyMc said:

In my experience, not only would they give permission for an office location without sufficient parking, they wouldn't actually give parking permission for the right number of cars anyway, in order to "encourage alternatives".

They do it for housing too: You can have 1.2 spaces for each 3-bedroom house around the new developments in this area, and no more.

It's insanity, obviously, but someone has to think of the children.

C

I know what you mean, there's a newish development in the town near to me. Parking is truly dire, they are 3 story houses mostly and get 1 space and some 1 garage. But the space isn't big enough for a Mondeo and you wouldn't get a SEAT Ibiza into the garage if you actually wanted to get out of the car. That and the fact most average houses have 2-4 cars each, so everyone parks on the road. Which the idiots have made quite narrow. So not only do you only have a single lane for traffic, you can't see past all the cars and there's no where to pull in. It takes so long to get from one side of the estate to the other it's unreal.

Seriously the person or approved and authorised this should be shot - repeatedly.

[telecat]

CraigyMc said:

telecat said:

I believe Boots in Nottingham has similar problems.

I've been there a few times and never had a problem parking on the site.
I doubt there are all that many issues with local residents because the site is so huge you'd have to walk about 15 minutes to park near housing and then get to the buildings you're heading for.

I could be wrong: obviously I don't live there.

C

The Solution there is the Problem. They have 4,500 Spaces and 3,000 of them lie within Nottingham's "Parking levy" area. Hence employees have to contribute to parking.

[Raify]

The building involved used to belong to the Land Registry until very recently. I would wager that the parking spaces coped with that business, but not when AXA moved in. It wasn't built and planned as an AXA building.

[sleep envy]

300bhp/ton said:

I know what you mean, there's a newish development in the town near to me. Parking is truly dire, they are 3 story houses mostly and get 1 space and some 1 garage. But the space isn't big enough for a Mondeo and you wouldn't get a SEAT Ibiza into the garage if you actually wanted to get out of the car. That and the fact most average houses have 2-4 cars each, so everyone parks on the road. Which the idiots have made quite narrow. So not only do you only have a single lane for traffic, you can't see past all the cars and there's no where to pull in. It takes so long to get from one side of the estate to the other it's unreal.

Seriously the person or approved and authorised this should be shot - repeatedly.

Developers are stuck between squeezing the most profit out of a devlopment/keeping the units affordable and complying with planning requirements, you simply can't lay the blame on one person.

[otolith]

Looks to me as if they could roughly double the amount of parking it used to have (if they had planning permission). That would still only give them parking for about 2/3 of the staff though.

http://goo.gl/maps/3hhbV

[CraigyMc]

telecat said:

The Solution there is the Problem. They have 4,500 Spaces and 3,000 of them lie within Nottingham's "Parking levy" area. Hence employees have to contribute to parking.

It all becomes clear. Obviously as a non-Boots employee this is something I've never had to pay any attention to.

[sleep envy]

otolith said:

if they had planning permission

Goes against current planning guidelines which the council will not accept as it will create a precedent.

Commercial planners would be all over it when pushing through other development applications.

[anonymous-user]

300bhp/ton said:

forzaminardi said:

Ridiculous misdirection of the local residents' understandable annoyance. The action should be directed at the company itself, and the poor public transport infrastructure that obliges workers to drive to work. Taking it out, in a disgusting way, on people who are just trying their best to go about their business will not endear them to anyone.

+1

The owners of the cars are just trying to get to work, I doubt any of them want to park on the road. Idiot residents and locals really.

I live in a town centre in a terraced house and parking is a pain in the ar5e. I totally feel for the residents in this situation. Council need to bring in a parking permit scheme for the area.

[300bhp/ton]

sleep envy said:

Developers are stuck between squeezing the most profit out of a devlopment/keeping the units affordable and complying with planning requirements, you simply can't lay the blame on one person.

Of course you can. Well ok it might be a group of people, but somebody somewhere said "yes, that'll do perfectly". When in reality it doesn't. That person(s) are the guilty ones and the hub of such problems.

[Ozzie Osmond]

300bhp/ton said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Sounds daft. All they need to do is get the council to implement a "two hours parking or resident's permit" scheme. Job done.

Sadly all that does is attack the people who aren't at fault though.

Oh really? Maybe you can make a list of those for us?

[sleep envy]

300bhp/ton said:

but somebody somewhere said "yes, that'll do perfectly"

Unlikely, the general arrangement of a development and getting the development approved is always a compromise.

[300bhp/ton]

St John Smythe said:

I live in a town centre in a terraced house and parking is a pain in the ar5e. I totally feel for the residents in this situation. Council need to bring in a parking permit scheme for the area.

I think there needs to be another, better solution. Stopping people parking on the street is one thing, but were will they park? They need to park somewhere and it shouldn't be at huge cost either.

[300bhp/ton]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Oh really? Maybe you can make a list of those for us?

eh?

They are just people going to work. Sure a few numpties might upset the apple cart and park badly - but fine call the Police. However if you park legally in a legal road car then you have as much right as anyone else to park on the road.

For instance, would you attempt to go to work, find the car park full and phone your boss saying I'm going home today as there's no parking.


People go were the work is, none choose to park on the road. But what else are they meant to do?

[300bhp/ton]

sleep envy said:

Unlikely, the general arrangement of a development and getting the development approved is always a compromise.

Exactly. But it shouldn't be, not when it causes such problems as these. A little common sense when the building was built would have meant this whole issue would not have existed.

[anonymous-user]

300bhp/ton said:

St John Smythe said:

I live in a town centre in a terraced house and parking is a pain in the ar5e. I totally feel for the residents in this situation. Council need to bring in a parking permit scheme for the area.

I think there needs to be another, better solution. Stopping people parking on the street is one thing, but were will they park? They need to park somewhere and it shouldn't be at huge cost either.

We've got a permit scheme but the problem is most houses have 2/3 cars so even with all the residents parked the street is full up. God knows what it must be like without permits. I reckon snipers would be a good solution. Pick off the buggers from the roof tops

[Face for Radio]

Reading between the lines in that article, there are a lot of people being blocked in on their own driveway.

All the hooh-har on this thread about people 'just wanting to get to work', what about the poor sod stuck on their driveway who just wants to go to work.

Smearing dog st on people's cars isn't the answer, but it must be immensely frustrating to want to leave your own driveway and some phallus working in a nearby office has blocked you in.

[irocfan]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Sounds daft. All they need to do is get the council to implement a "two hours parking or resident's permit" scheme. Job done.

this

as currently the axa staff have every right to park on the public road

you are correct they have every right to park on the public road HOWEVER they are blocking drive-ways according the article and while I understand that this is strictly speaking legal it most certainly isn't considerate. I live on a road blighted with commuters who seem to think it is fine to have part of their car encroaching on someones driveway on occasion it's a pain the the bloody arse and all so these fking tight-wad, pickey s can save themselves a parking fee in the local BR station

On a side note these 'dirty protests' are a little more common than you might suppose - an ex of mine used to have it happen to her and her colleagues on a regular basis when they had to serve eviction notices etc. The world is full of scuzzers

[sleep envy]

300bhp/ton said:

sleep envy said:

Unlikely, the general arrangement of a development and getting the development approved is always a compromise.

Exactly. But it shouldn't be, not when it causes such problems as these. A little common sense when the building was built would have meant this whole issue would not have existed.

You should consider a carrer change with that forethought and becomme a commercial planner.

[300bhp/ton]

irocfan said:

you are correct they have every right to park on the public road HOWEVER they are blocking drive-ways according the article

I'm willing to bet that this is a huge minority though. And in some cases not even being done by the workers.

For instance, a person who is in the mindset that "they own the road" and you cannot park on it. Is likely to claim any such car is illegal and blocking their drive, even if it isn't.

Indeed I had a not put on my car only the other week telling me I was not park on the road outside someones house as it was for the use of friends and family members only


I've also made a note of where many cars park on the road I park on, on many occasions residents park on the curb, the wrong direction in a 30 limit, actually block drive ways and park on junctions. I explained this in an email to a council member after receiving a different note on my car telling me not to park on a public road. I even offered to provide photos of resident cars parked badly/illegally, but they never got back to me on it...

I'm not saying it's right, but you can't have one law for some and another for others.

irocfan said:

and while I understand that this is strictly speaking legal it most certainly isn't considerate. I live on a road blighted with commuters who seem to think it is fine to have part of their car encroaching on someones driveway on occasion it's a pain the the bloody arse and all so these fking tight-wad, pickey s can save themselves a parking fee in the local BR station

How much is the station car park. Where I live an annual permit will set you back around £1200.

I mean honestly, would you happily today take a £1200 affective pay cut from your NET take home earnings? I suspect for some that's an entire months take home pay.