RE: Spotted: Peugeot 309 GTI
Discussion
bob1179 said:
I love Peugeot 309's, I had a 1987 309 GE when I passed my driving test, then a 1992 309 'Style' a few years later. I always wanted a red, three door, 309 GTi. I still do to be honest so I've organised to buy this one.
I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
aw51 121565 said:
The rear hatchback glass is bolted directly to the roof - the glass is the top half of the rear hatch - then the bottom half of the hatch is bolted on to the glass. No metal between the bottom of the hatch and the roof on Phase 1s; this was rectified in the Phase 2s which are conventionally engineered in this area.
The connectors for the heated rear window are also known to fall off and are the devil's own job to refix. Using heat (soldering iron) often leads to the glass shattering a few days later - just after a long enough gap to make one dissociate the two events.
SO the rear glass is a potential issue, but not enough of one to put me off owning a 309SR and using it most days .
Could fancy a GTI, but 5 door for me please
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I can vouch for the window. I had one. It exploded one morning at 6am The connectors for the heated rear window are also known to fall off and are the devil's own job to refix. Using heat (soldering iron) often leads to the glass shattering a few days later - just after a long enough gap to make one dissociate the two events.
SO the rear glass is a potential issue, but not enough of one to put me off owning a 309SR and using it most days
.Could fancy a GTI, but 5 door for me please
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Still they'll be plenty more to go wrong if you don't have that pleasure. Maybe it's all Pug SRi's? My first car was a 405 SRi (roughly same engine as GTI and group 9 insurance...comfortably the fastest car I could buy and insure). Mine managed a 360° spin across a roundabout after it swapped ends...
The Autocar roadtest praised it and said 'only an idiot could get into trouble in this car'. I was 18 so that probably stacks up correctly
Love this example, had a shed 205 GTI 1.9 for free (!!!) about 8 years ago and drove it until me and housemates killed it. Always fancied the 309 though for it's underdog status and the fact, as proven here, it doesn't command anything like the premium. Can't see this going down below 1500 quid over the next few years if kept in similar condition...
regards
Ben
The Autocar roadtest praised it and said 'only an idiot could get into trouble in this car'. I was 18 so that probably stacks up correctly
Love this example, had a shed 205 GTI 1.9 for free (!!!) about 8 years ago and drove it until me and housemates killed it. Always fancied the 309 though for it's underdog status and the fact, as proven here, it doesn't command anything like the premium. Can't see this going down below 1500 quid over the next few years if kept in similar condition...
regards
Ben
I bought myself a silver 405 SRi too for my 21st birthday, lovely car. With 1.9 GTi alloys, a 10 disc Kenwood CD and yellow foglamps I was the mutts nuts back in 1994!
I also bought a MINT white 309 around 1997, problem was I did not realise Peugeout did a 105bhp 1.9 309 GTi for a limited time, and guess what one mugginbs here bought?? Could not pull the skin off a rice pudding. Looked nice though.
I also bought a MINT white 309 around 1997, problem was I did not realise Peugeout did a 105bhp 1.9 309 GTi for a limited time, and guess what one mugginbs here bought?? Could not pull the skin off a rice pudding. Looked nice though.
turboslippers said:
Maybe it's all Pug SRi's? My first car was a 405 SRi (roughly same engine as GTI and group 9 insurance...comfortably the fastest car I could buy and insure). Mine managed a 360° spin across a roundabout after it swapped ends...
The Autocar roadtest praised it and said 'only an idiot could get into trouble in this car'. I was 18 so that probably stacks up correctly
Autocar testers got into a fair bit of 'trouble' with the 405 Mi-16 at their Annual Handling Day. Think John Barker managed to spin it and said it was more tail-happy than the rwd cars there that year ( E34 535i, Merc 190E 16 valve ) The Autocar roadtest praised it and said 'only an idiot could get into trouble in this car'. I was 18 so that probably stacks up correctly
Dodgey_Rog said:
This brought a tear to my eye, nostalgia wise....
Reminded me of the commercials; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdJu-jSi65I
and;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKkIO6JK4U&fea...
I found one for a friend, an 88E, one owner with 30k miles on it back in 2005 for about 1500 quid. His missus stuck it under a bus and wrote it off!!!
First ad - mine was that colour!Reminded me of the commercials; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdJu-jSi65I
and;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKkIO6JK4U&fea...
I found one for a friend, an 88E, one owner with 30k miles on it back in 2005 for about 1500 quid. His missus stuck it under a bus and wrote it off!!!
Second ad - just brilliant! Look at some of the "rivals"...
Great car the 309 GTi, fairly rare now too. A good mate had one back in the 90's, and performance wise (in the real world) there was nothing between it and the 1.9 205, if anything, it handled even better on the limit.
Lesser numbers make for a much better and more interesting investment than the more common 205 GTi in my book. The fact that it looks so eighties and more retro than the 205 will gain it more fans as the years go by and the numbers reduce even further. A good time to buy such a car before everyone else cottons on I would say!
Lesser numbers make for a much better and more interesting investment than the more common 205 GTi in my book. The fact that it looks so eighties and more retro than the 205 will gain it more fans as the years go by and the numbers reduce even further. A good time to buy such a car before everyone else cottons on I would say!
I had one the same as that red 3 door looked great i thought.
Bought it when it was just over 6 months old.
There was a even a waiting list for second hand ones!
My best mate had a 205 1.9 gti but his was in white.
My 309 gti was basic speck no electrics or any of this new fancy stuff.
No electric windows or aircon etc.
I remember it being really light on the front end. If you hit the gas too hard you could feel the front end lift up!!
Which meant for some interesting times.
I managed to get mine down to 8mpg or a rather spirited drive into central london.
Tail end of rush hour no cameras etc- those were the days.
Allround one of the best cars i've owned.
Eventually was written off by my ex who put it into the back of a truck parked on a blind bend.
Bought it when it was just over 6 months old.
There was a even a waiting list for second hand ones!
My best mate had a 205 1.9 gti but his was in white.
My 309 gti was basic speck no electrics or any of this new fancy stuff.
No electric windows or aircon etc.
I remember it being really light on the front end. If you hit the gas too hard you could feel the front end lift up!!
Which meant for some interesting times.
I managed to get mine down to 8mpg or a rather spirited drive into central london.
Tail end of rush hour no cameras etc- those were the days.
Allround one of the best cars i've owned.
Eventually was written off by my ex who put it into the back of a truck parked on a blind bend.
I have a white 3 door 309 GTi. I couldn't help chuckle the other week where I was going to work at 6am in it and caught up with a white 309 diesel. Someone in the know probably would have done a double take, because you hardly ever see 309's, let alone two!
Very underrated cars, IMO. The low kerb weight and brilliant steering are qualities that modern hot hatches can only dream about. A well maintained 309 GTi is an absolute pleasure to use every day.
Very underrated cars, IMO. The low kerb weight and brilliant steering are qualities that modern hot hatches can only dream about. A well maintained 309 GTi is an absolute pleasure to use every day.
PatrickOUFC said:
Been browsing a bit now and found this one in even better nick
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-Peugeot-309-1-9-GTI...
Debadged though....
Unfortunatley not - they've had that about 6 months - I went to see it and it's very rough - don't waste your time travelling to see it - I was luckily enough to be local.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-Peugeot-309-1-9-GTI...
Debadged though....
Back in 1993 (wow was it really 19 years ago!!) I so wanted a Red 309 GTi and was just pipped to one in Plymouth. I viewed it about 5pm, made a decision that night then went back to buy it in the morning only to find it sold !
Bought a 405 SRi instead which was slow and uncomfortable, so got rid and got an Mi16.
I hated the gearboxes one every Pug I owned / drove so changed the 405 for a Renault 21 turbo and never looked back!
Edited by gsrgeoff on Thursday 6th September 20:49
Edited by gsrgeoff on Thursday 6th September 20:50
A good friend of mine bought one of these when they were new, in white. He recalls that it was a great drive, better than the 205 GTi infact. However, it wasn't the sturdiest of builds. He still has paperwork from Peugeot when he was battling it out with them, trying to get them repair a dash switch that had fallen off!
bob1179 said:
I love Peugeot 309's, I had a 1987 309 GE when I passed my driving test, then a 1992 309 'Style' a few years later. I always wanted a red, three door, 309 GTi. I still do to be honest so I've organised to buy this one.
I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
I had an E plate 309 SRi for about 5 years whilst at uni in the mid 90's and sorry to spoil the run of SRi related incidents but I didn't crash it once, although my cousin had the 3 door XSi version and did, fairly spectacularly, again ending up on it's roof.
Its still the best road car I've ever owned in terms of driver involvement and handling balance, even on Pirelli P6000's. The 1.6 205GTi engine is a peach and performed just as well in a straight line as in the 205 (I think there was about 20-30kgs in it). The chassis though was what really made it special, it gave so much feedback and feel that it was almost like it was wired into your brain, I could drive my favourite roads absolutely balls out and almost do a running commentary in my head of what each wheel was about to do half a second later as it went over bumps, cambers and surface changes etc. Nothing bar my old bike engine'd kit car has come close to that on the road and every modern car I've driven that gets rave reviews for handling has just not been in the same ballpark. The second best bit about the SRi/XSi/GRi was the insurance, being in group 7/8 was heaven for a 19 year old wanting GTI performance but without the money to run one, compared to anything else remotely as quick it was peanuts to insure.
The only bad points for me was that it had an appetite for driveshafts and the interior was rather creaky, but I still also cast a casual eye over the classifieds occasionally and half heartedly think about getting one for a bit of fun, but I have such fond memories of E368 WNF that I'm almost worried I might have slight rose tinted glasses and driving one now wouldn't quite match my memories so would burst that bubble of memories forever!
Its still the best road car I've ever owned in terms of driver involvement and handling balance, even on Pirelli P6000's. The 1.6 205GTi engine is a peach and performed just as well in a straight line as in the 205 (I think there was about 20-30kgs in it). The chassis though was what really made it special, it gave so much feedback and feel that it was almost like it was wired into your brain, I could drive my favourite roads absolutely balls out and almost do a running commentary in my head of what each wheel was about to do half a second later as it went over bumps, cambers and surface changes etc. Nothing bar my old bike engine'd kit car has come close to that on the road and every modern car I've driven that gets rave reviews for handling has just not been in the same ballpark. The second best bit about the SRi/XSi/GRi was the insurance, being in group 7/8 was heaven for a 19 year old wanting GTI performance but without the money to run one, compared to anything else remotely as quick it was peanuts to insure.
The only bad points for me was that it had an appetite for driveshafts and the interior was rather creaky, but I still also cast a casual eye over the classifieds occasionally and half heartedly think about getting one for a bit of fun, but I have such fond memories of E368 WNF that I'm almost worried I might have slight rose tinted glasses and driving one now wouldn't quite match my memories so would burst that bubble of memories forever!
Edited by LocoBlade on Thursday 6th September 21:10
Great spotted Pug.
I had an identical red E reg 309 Gti in 95' - at the time it was the best handling car I'd driven and looking back it still rates highly even today.
My one had koni shocks/ lowered front springs and a superchip and induction kit and it really went well, handled on rails, better than the 205 Gti 1.6/1.9 that I had after it, but let down by the looks and old fashioned dash. The 306 Gti-6 feels similar to drive to the 309 gti, but better.
Rare to see these any more and deserves to be looked after as its as good as a 205 Gti to drive.
I had an identical red E reg 309 Gti in 95' - at the time it was the best handling car I'd driven and looking back it still rates highly even today.
My one had koni shocks/ lowered front springs and a superchip and induction kit and it really went well, handled on rails, better than the 205 Gti 1.6/1.9 that I had after it, but let down by the looks and old fashioned dash. The 306 Gti-6 feels similar to drive to the 309 gti, but better.
Rare to see these any more and deserves to be looked after as its as good as a 205 Gti to drive.
bob1179 said:
I love Peugeot 309's, I had a 1987 309 GE when I passed my driving test, then a 1992 309 'Style' a few years later. I always wanted a red, three door, 309 GTi. I still do to be honest so I've organised to buy this one.
I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
Nice 2001 sports car! I can't remember the last time I was this excited to be getting a 'new' car!
Good to see it's going to a good home with fabulous drive mates.
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