RE: McLaren P1 revealed

RE: McLaren P1 revealed

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CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
LHD only is an extremely interesting statement on the British and Japanese economies. They will have sold a lot of these already and I guess too few are for here to justify wasting any time or money on a RHD version?
India drives on the left too, but has incredibly punitive import taxes.
Australia and NZ too, at least one F1 has Victoria plates on it.

As others have said, I'm not sure the size of the RHD market for this car.

DonkeyApple

55,408 posts

170 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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I'm sure a true Englishman would pay for his own conversion to RHD by Macca' special development department. biggrin

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

210 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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And remembering that not many P1s will need to get into multi-storey car parks, and most UK ones will spend time on the continent...

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure a true Englishman would pay for his own conversion to RHD by Macca' special development department.
I suspect many of the Englishmen who can afford this have homes in places that drive on the right, like Monaco or somewhere in Switzerland.

C

DonkeyApple

55,408 posts

170 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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CraigyMc said:
DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure a true Englishman would pay for his own conversion to RHD by Macca' special development department.
I suspect many of the Englishmen who can afford this have homes in places that drive on the right, like Monaco or somewhere in Switzerland.

C
True. Chances are they also saw with the F1 that many of the English clients kept their cars overseas.

With a company as meticulous as Macca you kind of assume someone went to an awful lot of trouble and through a lot of data to come to the decision they have.

It feels a shame though, from a selfish perspective. biggrin

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
CraigyMc said:
DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure a true Englishman would pay for his own conversion to RHD by Macca' special development department.
I suspect many of the Englishmen who can afford this have homes in places that drive on the right, like Monaco or somewhere in Switzerland.

C
True. Chances are they also saw with the F1 that many of the English clients kept their cars overseas.

With a company as meticulous as Macca you kind of assume someone went to an awful lot of trouble and through a lot of data to come to the decision they have.

It feels a shame though, from a selfish perspective. biggrin
With the F1 userbase it probably involved a single, fairly small, email BCC list, and/or perhaps a couple of phonecalls to get that data.

C

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
It feels a shame though, from a selfish perspective. biggrin
Something else just occurred to me, and I'm not sure why.

When you have a flappy-paddle shift setup like precog, you render yourself impervious to people who want to change gear with either their right or left hand depending on whether they are in a LHD or RHD market, respectively.

Consequently, it's not as big a deal in one way.

The main thing I would prefer RHD for is moving into/out of tight junctions where visibility becomes a problem if you're on the "wrong" side.

C

DonkeyApple

55,408 posts

170 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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CraigyMc said:
With the F1 userbase it probably involved a single, fairly small, email BCC list, and/or perhaps a couple of phonecalls to get that data.

C
They'd need more data. Maybe some kid got sent to all the tax havens with a team of dolly birds to ask people whether they wanted L or R when spending a bar on a car? biggrin

HighwayStar

4,285 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
They'd need more data. Maybe some kid got sent to all the tax havens with a team of dolly birds to ask people whether they wanted L or R when spending a bar on a car? biggrin
Lol... In my mind I visualise that scene... Salesman and the immaculately turned out McEttes or Mclarenettes wink

marktul

128 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Agent Orange said:
Streetrod said:
Stew2000 said:
marktul said:
Anyone else think the side profile is just crying out for it to become a GT3 racer? The shape would suit an outlandish wing on some expensive scaffolding.

Something like this.



Sorry for rough image but I only had a couple of mins to do it.
I had sort of the same crazy idea..

Why when a new super gets introduced do people immediately stick a massive wing on it, aero is moving on guys, active is the way forward I think. If the rules had not banned it F1 would be the same
ehem *cough* biggrin

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&...

Damn!!! We totally missed our calling. Balance in every sense it would seem biggrin

smoores

213 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Evo

3,462 posts

255 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Here you go Here's the Mclaren X1, this was out a few times today,


DonkeyApple

55,408 posts

170 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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I wasn't completely sold to start with but I did put much of that down to just being older and so generally less excited about these kind of things.

Looking at it now I can see just how pretty it is and with some styling cues that will define it.

What I am really liking though is that Macca said they will release a new car every year. If they do this by using the central tub for economics as they have done so far then with all these cars being similar in skeleton there might be some really interesting models. I wonder if at some point one of these annual cara could be done as a more retro vehicle so stripped of all driver electronics?

Of course they may build an SUV next. biggrin

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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anniesdad said:
Same link but for desktop users: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcmzc895mDc

Carfolio

1,124 posts

182 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Child-bearing hips. I suspect this won't be the final design.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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thumbup

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Form derived from function - as it should be from McLaren.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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I am a massive Octane magazine fan and look forward to my copy dropping on my doorstep each month. So was a little annoyed when I popped into the local newsagents this morning to see the new issue complete with the new P1 on the cover when normally I get mine about five days before it appears on the shelves.

So with my best Angry of Croydon voice I put a call into the publishers where I was told subscriptions had to be put on hold for this issue due to an embargo placed on them by McLaren ahead of the reveal in Paris. My issue will be posted today mad

So that's the price Octane had to pay I suppose to get some kind of exclusive. They also have a full road test on the F1

Anyway rant over

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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At the moment I can only see one flaw in the design and that is also one of my favourite parts of the car.

The small aero treatment behind the front wheel that forms part of the door. If you look from the rear forward you can see a large amount of the tyre, therefore when driving in wet and dirty conditions it looks like the tyres are going to make an absolute mess of the side of the car, I wonder how that will be resolved on the production cars?