RE: BMW: don't drive your M5, M6
Discussion
ghibbett said:
HighwayStar said:
Ooooh cynical aren't we Mr Hibbett...
Not really, just someone with 11 years experience in the Automotive manufacturing industry. I know how it works, I've lived and breathed issues just like these, and hence my original post. I'd also wager that the offending Supplier has a big recharge bill coming...bob bobbleton said:
Will this be applicable on my E36 ?
I've never understood the ramiationship between BMW, E and M
Please enlighten me
Bob
In a word no. I've never understood the ramiationship between BMW, E and M
Please enlighten me
Bob
e36 is the internal designation for the 3 series produced between 1990-1999, this affects the F10 M5 & F12/F13 M6.
Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 25th September 22:38
SmartVenom said:
I actually think good on BMW for issuing the recall, not all German manufacturers have been so quick to acknowledge potential causes of engine failure.
Hmm but how do you know they have been quick? There is no timescale with the story. They were quick to realise that all the pumps were affected (probably checking a few numbers), but the initial find is anyones guess.KarlMac said:
M Powered said:
Seems very odd to have a market derivatised oil pump.
would put money on it been multiple suppliers of the same part. Strange how '19' have ended up in the UK.What is going on at BMW?! The last BMW I bought I still own, well two as bought mine and wife's at same time, but I have never heard of so many problems. I've never had a BMW leave me or my wife stranded and I clock up 25k miles a year in my e39 530i. Her 330 is absolutely mint.
The new BMWs appear to be built to a price and not the quality - very disappointing but then I have pretty much already decided not to buy a newer BMW when I replace mine.
This constant drip of problems on recent cars has to be due to some change of direction within the firm.
The new BMWs appear to be built to a price and not the quality - very disappointing but then I have pretty much already decided not to buy a newer BMW when I replace mine.
This constant drip of problems on recent cars has to be due to some change of direction within the firm.
From Bimmerpost
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7481...
M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
Filed under: M5 M6 F10 M5 F12 M6
M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
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Here is an FAQ provided by BMW to dealers on the M5/M6 oil pump issue:
Affected are certain Model Year 2013 BMW M5, M6 Coupe, and M6 Convertible vehicles produced between July 2012 and September 2012.
Q2. What is the specific problem?
The issue involves the engine oil pump. The pump driveshaft can separate from the pump rotor. If this were to occur, the engine could experience a sudden loss of oil pressure which could cause severe engine damage.
Q3. Why are other models not affected?
It has been determined that only certain vehicles produced between July 2012 and September 2012 were equipped with an incorrectly manufactured oil pump.
Q4. How many vehicles are affected?
Approximately 696 vehicles in the US are potentially affected.
Q5. What can happen as a result of this issue?
A sudden loss of oil pressure could occur, as well as the possibility of severe engine damage.
Q6. Can the driver become aware of the problem?
Yes, if the vehicle experiences a sudden loss of oil pressure, a low oil pressure warning indicator is displayed in the instrument cluster, along with a warning message in the control display.
Q7. What corrective measures will be taken?
The engine oil pump will be replaced.
Q8. How did BMW become aware of the problem?
BMW became aware of the problem through its quality control procedures.
Q9. Is BMW aware of any accidents or injuries associated with the Recall?
No.
Q10. Can customers continue to drive their vehicles?
We recommend that owners of affected vehicles do not drive their vehicle until this Recall can be completed.
If the vehicle experiences a sudden loss of oil pressure, carefully pull over to the side of the road and shut off the engine.
Please contact BMW Roadside Assistance at 1-800-332-4269.
If you are not the only driver of this vehicle, please advise all other drivers of this important information.
Q11. How will customers be informed of the Recall?
The BMW Customer Relations department is calling owners of affected vehicles, advising to them discontinue driving the vehicle until the Recall has been completed.
Subsequently, owners will receive a letter via First Class mail asking them to schedule an appointment with their authorized BMW center.
Q12. How will the Recall be performed?
Affected customers who make an appointment will have the engine oil pump replaced on their vehicle.
Q13. How long will therepair take?
This repair may take two and a half hours; however, additional time may be required depending upon the center’s scheduling and processing. The repair will be performed free of charge by your authorized BMW center.
Q14. How many vehicles have experienced this problem?
The exact number is unknown at this time.
Q15. When will I receive my owner notification letter?
Mailings are planned for October 2012.
Q16. Do I have to wait for my Recall letter in order to have my Recall performed?
Yes. BMW is in the process of implementing the Recall Campaign to ensure that the necessary parts are at the authorized BMW center prior to sending out the owner notification letters.
AFFECTED VIN# LIST is available below (download):
==> VIN List Download (PDF)
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M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
Filed under: M5 M6 F10 M5 F12 M6
M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
300
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Here is an FAQ provided by BMW to dealers on the M5/M6 oil pump issue:
- See original bulletin
Affected are certain Model Year 2013 BMW M5, M6 Coupe, and M6 Convertible vehicles produced between July 2012 and September 2012.
Q2. What is the specific problem?
The issue involves the engine oil pump. The pump driveshaft can separate from the pump rotor. If this were to occur, the engine could experience a sudden loss of oil pressure which could cause severe engine damage.
Q3. Why are other models not affected?
It has been determined that only certain vehicles produced between July 2012 and September 2012 were equipped with an incorrectly manufactured oil pump.
Q4. How many vehicles are affected?
Approximately 696 vehicles in the US are potentially affected.
Q5. What can happen as a result of this issue?
A sudden loss of oil pressure could occur, as well as the possibility of severe engine damage.
Q6. Can the driver become aware of the problem?
Yes, if the vehicle experiences a sudden loss of oil pressure, a low oil pressure warning indicator is displayed in the instrument cluster, along with a warning message in the control display.
Q7. What corrective measures will be taken?
The engine oil pump will be replaced.
Q8. How did BMW become aware of the problem?
BMW became aware of the problem through its quality control procedures.
Q9. Is BMW aware of any accidents or injuries associated with the Recall?
No.
Q10. Can customers continue to drive their vehicles?
We recommend that owners of affected vehicles do not drive their vehicle until this Recall can be completed.
If the vehicle experiences a sudden loss of oil pressure, carefully pull over to the side of the road and shut off the engine.
Please contact BMW Roadside Assistance at 1-800-332-4269.
If you are not the only driver of this vehicle, please advise all other drivers of this important information.
Q11. How will customers be informed of the Recall?
The BMW Customer Relations department is calling owners of affected vehicles, advising to them discontinue driving the vehicle until the Recall has been completed.
Subsequently, owners will receive a letter via First Class mail asking them to schedule an appointment with their authorized BMW center.
Q12. How will the Recall be performed?
Affected customers who make an appointment will have the engine oil pump replaced on their vehicle.
Q13. How long will therepair take?
This repair may take two and a half hours; however, additional time may be required depending upon the center’s scheduling and processing. The repair will be performed free of charge by your authorized BMW center.
Q14. How many vehicles have experienced this problem?
The exact number is unknown at this time.
Q15. When will I receive my owner notification letter?
Mailings are planned for October 2012.
Q16. Do I have to wait for my Recall letter in order to have my Recall performed?
Yes. BMW is in the process of implementing the Recall Campaign to ensure that the necessary parts are at the authorized BMW center prior to sending out the owner notification letters.
AFFECTED VIN# LIST is available below (download):
==> VIN List Download (PDF)
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TinyCappo said:
So does anyone actually know what about these particular pumps have failed?
Seals?
Spur Gears?
shafts?
or are BMW keeping shtumn?
Seals?
Spur Gears?
shafts?
or are BMW keeping shtumn?
HighwayStar said:
From Bimmerpost
M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
Q2. What is the specific problem?
The issue involves the engine oil pump. The pump driveshaft can separate from the pump rotor. If this were to occur, the engine could experience a sudden loss of oil pressure which could cause severe engine damage.
Ooh Feck thats catastrophic.M5 / M6 Oil Pump Recall FAQ and Affected VIN List
Q2. What is the specific problem?
The issue involves the engine oil pump. The pump driveshaft can separate from the pump rotor. If this were to occur, the engine could experience a sudden loss of oil pressure which could cause severe engine damage.
Bladedancer said:
Derek Chevalier said:
Bladedancer said:
HPFP on 335 and 535
It's a lot more than just HPFP. Shame really, cause 335 could have been such a brilliant car.
At the time of purchase I was wondering why my 330 was more expensive than quite a few 335i...
Wouldn't it be sensible if BMW created a profile and wrote a post? It wouldn't take much and they'd be able to defend their actions!
On a totally separate note but related.... Aren't BMW Uk simply a distributor for BMW AG therefor to a certain extent they are bound by what the factory tells them?
On a totally separate note but related.... Aren't BMW Uk simply a distributor for BMW AG therefor to a certain extent they are bound by what the factory tells them?
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