RE: Europe's most (and least) reliable used cars
Discussion
Bladedancer said:
Waugh-terfall said:
Bladedancer said:
Waugh-terfall said:
No.
GTIR has a 2007 E220 CDI Avantgarde, 415,000mi and counting, fast.
How many times injectors, DMF and fuel pump have been changed on it?GTIR has a 2007 E220 CDI Avantgarde, 415,000mi and counting, fast.
A common rail diesel without any problems over 150k mark.
Many have trouble reaching 100k without one of the usual suspects going bang.
Only issues are suspension, as noted in that report, but to be honest apart from springs and arms which you would expect, I have not had any issues.
I know of many E class (06 on) that have had no issues with injectors and have very high mileage so I am not sure where you get your info from.
The only problems I have had (2.1 engine) is the injector seals go, but that has nothing to do with the injector itself.
Roll on 500k
blindswelledrat said:
Very interesting (if true)
Call me cynical but a German test showing suprise German winners in 4 of 5 group tests makes me a touch suspicious
The Germans treat a Ford Ka as domestic. The old Ford ethos of 'build a factory in a country so every customer thinks they're buying a domestic product' rings true there too.Call me cynical but a German test showing suprise German winners in 4 of 5 group tests makes me a touch suspicious
All I'll say on the subject is cars cost more there, and the Germans (being a process-driven lot) will generally have their nicer cars serviced at a main dealer - even when it's out of guarantee. Add more disposable income than most of their neighbours, and it doesn't surprise me one bit that a Porsche 996 consistently shows up least faults at test time.
GTIR said:
Bladedancer said:
Waugh-terfall said:
Bladedancer said:
Waugh-terfall said:
No.
GTIR has a 2007 E220 CDI Avantgarde, 415,000mi and counting, fast.
How many times injectors, DMF and fuel pump have been changed on it?GTIR has a 2007 E220 CDI Avantgarde, 415,000mi and counting, fast.
A common rail diesel without any problems over 150k mark.
Many have trouble reaching 100k without one of the usual suspects going bang.
Only issues are suspension, as noted in that report, but to be honest apart from springs and arms which you would expect, I have not had any issues.
I know of many E class (06 on) that have had no issues with injectors and have very high mileage so I am not sure where you get your info from.
The only problems I have had (2.1 engine) is the injector seals go, but that has nothing to do with the injector itself.
Roll on 500k
It a high pressure, highly stressed system and they just go and become a consumable that you have to change every 150k or so, give or take.
I'm not talking just German here, but across the board.
The last two cars that have left me needing recovery have both been E Class W211 Mercedes.
I had an E270 CDi that I used for long motorways trips between Kent and Newcastle - at around the 100,000 mile mark the front springs went bang (within an hour of each other) and I had to be recovered from North Yorkshire to kent. On a very wet and cold Thursday evening.
I replaced that with an E55 AMG W211, which I used to commute into Canary Wharf. The car cut out while queue for the Blackwall tunnel in the outside lane of the A102 - the traffic cleared around me and I was very nearly rear-ended at high speed by a van Turned out the fault was a broken fuel pump relay, costing £3.50 to fix
Both stupid faults, but they left me stranded. The only other car to strand me was a Freelander, and the 1.8 K Series head gasket went taking the engine to Valhalla.
In my experience, E-classes are 100% likely to strand you during ownership
I had an E270 CDi that I used for long motorways trips between Kent and Newcastle - at around the 100,000 mile mark the front springs went bang (within an hour of each other) and I had to be recovered from North Yorkshire to kent. On a very wet and cold Thursday evening.
I replaced that with an E55 AMG W211, which I used to commute into Canary Wharf. The car cut out while queue for the Blackwall tunnel in the outside lane of the A102 - the traffic cleared around me and I was very nearly rear-ended at high speed by a van Turned out the fault was a broken fuel pump relay, costing £3.50 to fix
Both stupid faults, but they left me stranded. The only other car to strand me was a Freelander, and the 1.8 K Series head gasket went taking the engine to Valhalla.
In my experience, E-classes are 100% likely to strand you during ownership
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