What car, Discovery 4 or X5?
Discussion
longblackcoat said:
Zod said:
I don't have any in-gear figures, but the 0-60 figures tell a tale: the current Discovery manages 0-60 in 9 seconds, vs 7.8 sseconds for the X5 30d, 6.5 seconds for the 40d and 5.5 seconds for the 50d.The Discovery is s l o w .
And the 0-60 has relevance how often?Mid-range, there's not a lot in it (though I admit the 50d will be well ahead). That said, my D3 has been mildly fettled and is a lot quicker than the standard for a very small outlay. The speed's irrelevant - the real limiting factor is the sheer weight of the thing. Not that the X5's a lot better in this regard.
Edited by longblackcoat on Thursday 27th September 17:06
A couple of the guys at work have D3's, and we have popped out for lunch in them a few times. Once the engine comes to terms with the weight of the thing they aren't too bad, still no ball of fire and far too slow for me, but not as bad as you would expect.
Economy on them is horrendous though. One chap struggles to get into the 20's, and the other has just traded his for a D4, and was beaming about getting 27 out of that one.
Some of the bills they recieve come service time are fairly eye-watering as well. Don't think I've heard one under 4 figures yet, wheel bearings and suspension components appear to be made of cheese.
If it was my money I'd take the X5 every time, just as they are such a giggle to drive.
Economy on them is horrendous though. One chap struggles to get into the 20's, and the other has just traded his for a D4, and was beaming about getting 27 out of that one.
Some of the bills they recieve come service time are fairly eye-watering as well. Don't think I've heard one under 4 figures yet, wheel bearings and suspension components appear to be made of cheese.
If it was my money I'd take the X5 every time, just as they are such a giggle to drive.
Zod said:
Weight's largely irrelevant once the thing is moving. If you look above, you'll see that 1. I quoted 0-60 for want of in-gear figures and 2. 0-60 is still useful inthat it gives an idea of the 30-60 part of 0-60.
The weight is very relevant when cornering, let me assure you!jonnynine11 said:
onesickpuppy said:
Did you tilt the 2nd row forward?
No, the person who was showing me, sort of slid it forward and then tilted the backrest forward looked like squeeze. I had a D3 in the fleet for 7 years and just changed it for a D4 so clearly biassed but my brother bought is wife an x5 and I have spent some time in it also.
For me pro's and cons are:
D4 - neutral image, far more comfortable ride and quieter especially road noise, seats folded massive loadbay, full 7 seats, winter capability without changing wheels and tyres, elevated driving position, towing capability
X5 - perhaps cheaper to run (tax, service, fuel etc but may be offset by insurance, tyres and depreciation), faster, slightly smaller for parking, greater flexibility over options and colour schemes if buying new.
If a D4 I would definitely try to stretch to the 8 speed. Personally I think that the character of the car is about wafting in comfort but it is certainly not slow when required.
There may be other factors for you like location of dealer etc As ever, try and borrow one of each for exteneded test drive before buying.
For me pro's and cons are:
D4 - neutral image, far more comfortable ride and quieter especially road noise, seats folded massive loadbay, full 7 seats, winter capability without changing wheels and tyres, elevated driving position, towing capability
X5 - perhaps cheaper to run (tax, service, fuel etc but may be offset by insurance, tyres and depreciation), faster, slightly smaller for parking, greater flexibility over options and colour schemes if buying new.
If a D4 I would definitely try to stretch to the 8 speed. Personally I think that the character of the car is about wafting in comfort but it is certainly not slow when required.
There may be other factors for you like location of dealer etc As ever, try and borrow one of each for exteneded test drive before buying.
Edited by XTR2Turbo on Thursday 27th September 19:47
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/land-rover/dis...
Basically, the only
in it's armour is the fact the X5 3.0 is faster. But otherwise the D4 is the better all round car.
My D3 is a fantastic car, it's effortless to drive on the motorway, great around town with the autobox and the bluff shape is easy to place both in daily driving and in parking spaces.
Fuel economy is a weak point and the 2.7 i have is slow, but a £400 remap is on the card's and will help the speed side and maybe add 2-3mpg.
Basically, the only
in it's armour is the fact the X5 3.0 is faster. But otherwise the D4 is the better all round car.My D3 is a fantastic car, it's effortless to drive on the motorway, great around town with the autobox and the bluff shape is easy to place both in daily driving and in parking spaces.
Fuel economy is a weak point and the 2.7 i have is slow, but a £400 remap is on the card's and will help the speed side and maybe add 2-3mpg.
whoami said:
Zod said:
St John Smythe said:
Zod said:
300bhp/ton said:
Zod said:
I don't have any in-gear figures, but the 0-60 figures tell a tale: the current Discovery manages 0-60 in 9 seconds, vs 7.8 sseconds for the X5 30d, 6.5 seconds for the 40d and 5.5 seconds for the 50d.The Discovery is s l o w .
Yes it is. But it's still quite capable of using the road network without holding things up and I think they feel more pokey than the stats suggest.I don't think you've driven one Zod?
+ 1
I'm not really sure who buys this sort of car to transport their family around who really puts 0-60 figures at the top of their list of priorities.
As has been said, it has boat loads of torque and in real life driving (Yorkshire B roads included), it's actually a great drive.
I remember that you used to slag off Aston Martin as their cars were too slow.
And then you actually drove one...
One's mumsie and the other one's git-ish - I'd take the land rover - if you like acting like a tool, driving up people's arses and doing 130+mph on the m25 I'd go for a range rover sport - if you're normal get the disco although I have heard some of the hardware is a bit flakey. The x5's not too bad but I just couldnt live with those "cartoon" like looks - comparatively, the land rover's very attractive
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