The McLaren F1 does nothing for me
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My favorite super car of all time. In Volcano orange, but I'd take the passenger seats out. then there would be no chance of anybody sh*tting themselves, and telling me to slow down (Who mentioned my dear lady wife? 
It's the ultimate drivers car, the posers can buy a Lambo or Zonda instead.
It's the ultimate drivers car, the posers can buy a Lambo or Zonda instead.900T-R said:
I come from a diametrically opposed perspective - the F1 is one of very few 'supercars' that excite me because its ruthless focus on the driver and driving, from its compact dimensions and low weight, large naturally aspirated engine to the central driving position and the obsessive attention to detail.
^^^ThisIt separates the drivers from the poseurs.
BananaBok said:
To me the Veyron is the modern incantation of the F1, funtion above all else, very little emotion involved, and the goal of being the worlds fastest production car as one of it's targets.
The Veyron is simply an F1 in principal but with modern advancements applied, so a beter F1 in all respects, certainly faster too, but with only facts and figures to try and catch the imagination.
This post only goes to prove how little you know about the subject you have chosen to start a thread about.The Veyron is simply an F1 in principal but with modern advancements applied, so a beter F1 in all respects, certainly faster too, but with only facts and figures to try and catch the imagination.
The entire purpose of the F1 was to be the ultimate no-compromise super car. Gordon Murrays obsession with weight, packaging, lack of assistance and pure driver involvement is completely at odds with the Veyron's purpose in pretty much every way.
The Veyron was designed from the outset to be the fastest car the world had ever seen, and nothing else mattered.
The F1 was designed to be the best car the world had ever seen, and everything mattered.
If it was still in print I would suggest you should read this. I'm sure it would change your opinion regarding the amount of emotion involved.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
For any people who don't get the mclaren, buy the book "driving ambition". Quite simply the best car book ever written.
See above link. Gone up in value a bit since I bought it Edited by SWoll on Saturday 6th October 00:03
GuitarTech said:
My favorite super car of all time. In Volcano orange, but I'd take the passenger seats out. then there would be no chance of anybody sh*tting themselves, and telling me to slow down (Who mentioned my dear lady wife? It's the ultimate drivers car, the posers can buy a Lambo or Zonda instead.
I agree with you on the whole here, strip the thing out and just drive it! It's the ultimate drivers car, the posers can buy a Lambo or Zonda instead.However, the Zonda is far from a posers car, surely?
coppice said:
Whilst I recognise the fact that threads like this are like 14 year olds deciding if Kelly Brook or Lady Gaga would suit their needs better..
Although Kelly needs a bit of makeup to look like the part, if there are 14 year old that need to decide between these two.. I fear for the future. 
I have to admit, I've never been a huge fan of the F1, I respect the engineering but it's not for me.
If I had to choose a '90s supercar, I'd much rather have a Dauer 962.
http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Dauer/classic/962L...
If I had to choose a '90s supercar, I'd much rather have a Dauer 962.
http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Dauer/classic/962L...
from what I understand Veyron can do 250 mph only in a "low-downforce mode" = no brakes as a touch on a brake pedal puts you in a 2nd mode where you have to turn off the car etc. etc. and the car with no brakes is not road legal right? So its real maximum speed is around 230 mph, while Mc F1 goes 240 mph being delimited on rpms which is a 2 minute job by qualified technician and the car would still be road legal.
not to mention practicality (much bigger autonomy, actually less noise at cruising speed, 1 seat more, trunk and so on and so on)
not to mention practicality (much bigger autonomy, actually less noise at cruising speed, 1 seat more, trunk and so on and so on)
AreOut said:
from what I understand Veyron can do 250 mph only in a "low-downforce mode" = no brakes as a touch on a brake pedal puts you in a 2nd mode where you have to turn off the car etc. etc. and the car with no brakes is not road legal right?
I think you understand that wrong.The low downforce mode retracts the spoiler, so there is no air brake.
No brakes at 250mph
xRIEx said:
I think you understand that wrong.
The low downforce mode retracts the spoiler, so there is no air brake.
No brakes at 250mph
The low downforce mode retracts the spoiler, so there is no air brake.
No brakes at 250mph
you understood me wrong, if you touch the brake you immediately go to mode where spoiler goes up and you have to stop the car reenter the key blah blah, so the car is not capable of getting off the line touching the brake and reaching 250 mph
TallbutBuxomly said:
who knows. What I would like to see is if the segg r can beat the rest of the veyrons records. It can get to 200mph faster than the veyron and they believe it can crack 250mph as well.
how many places are there on the planet that a normal person can do 240+ legally, pretty much none, certainly no track daysunless vag start doing a run what you brung day at nardo lol
When the F1 came out it didn't do anything for me. But I was just starting secondary school! If it wasn't a Ferrari (my bedroom walls had a Testarossa on before I was school age the F40's were added) I wasn't that interested. The same with the Porsche 911 and 959 although I had some small pics of those. Both 911 and F1 have really grown on me and continue to do so as I get older. If I had to write down reasons why I now love the F1 it would probably be far more rationale than the F40 list. Perhaps that's not a good thing with supercars though?
AreOut said:
xRIEx said:
I think you understand that wrong.
The low downforce mode retracts the spoiler, so there is no air brake.
No brakes at 250mph
The low downforce mode retracts the spoiler, so there is no air brake.
No brakes at 250mph
you understood me wrong, if you touch the brake you immediately go to mode where spoiler goes up and you have to stop the car reenter the key blah blah, so the car is not capable of getting off the line touching the brake and reaching 250 mph
Dave Hedgehog said:
TallbutBuxomly said:
who knows. What I would like to see is if the segg r can beat the rest of the veyrons records. It can get to 200mph faster than the veyron and they believe it can crack 250mph as well.
how many places are there on the planet that a normal person can do 240+ legally, pretty much none, certainly no track daysunless vag start doing a run what you brung day at nardo lol
Alfanatic said:
At all times and in all modes the Veyron gives its driver access to the very best braking it has on offer. If you are in top speed mode, which is easier to access than a McLaren's deleted rev limiter mode, then you would need to stop the car to access the mode again. However, the McLaren's rev limiter is where it is to protect the engine against damage, so it's not like turning that off and forgetting about it is an option either. That's the kind of risk you take only when you are the manufacturer, at the circuit, doing high speed runs and calculating that the risk of blowing the engine is small compared to the publicity gains of managing an officially recognised 14mph over the current record.
well the rev limiter at 7500 rpm is a bit too safe I'd say, that engine is made out of 2 M3 engines that has higher rev limiter and is still under more load..6 cylinders in F1 have to take care of around 600 kgs and 6 cylinder in M3 have to take care of 1500 kgs, still they regularly see >300.000 km, I am ready to bet that F1 with 8K limiter will easily see twice the mileage of Veyron with standard rev limiter
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