RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
Discussion
trixyD said:
I for one can't believe that a car as iconic as this gets any stick on an enthusiasts forum. 
I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
Er it may be a Motoring forum but its is not a Ford Enthusiasts forum. Pistonheads started off leaning towards TVR's and now its spread its wings over a wide band of motoring issues. Its clear from YOUR comments that you like the car, good for you, I don't I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
I loved Ford Capri's and Hated the Salons. Personally I blame Ford for all the rounded Jelly mould euro boxes we see on our roads today. Really Horrid. Ford Killed of the Capri then bought out the Probe! What a pile of s##t that was, .....But wait, some people actually went out and bought them...The Horror, The Horror! And don't get me started on the Ka Yuck! Ford lost a lot of customers when the Sierra came out, My Dad switched to the Vauxhall cavalier 1.8 SRI, Now for its time that was a good carfatboy:
It is not like the probe followed straight after the Capri, there was a good few years between them.
As for blaming ford for the eurobox thing? how does that work then? Was the MK1 Golf GTi not out before Ford stopped making the capri? so the GTi would of bean the cause for the Eurobox thing... are you trying to say that back in the day, the MK1 was not a great car?
Back when the Cosworth was being made, was Fords peak! Only 1 car out of the ford range really beats the Cosworths when it comes to track/rally etc and that was the GT40. RS500 was a touring car king, Escort Cosworth won countless rallies, even the 4x4 Sierra Cosworth was winning rallies. From the very small amount of detail put in your comments I would say the whole rally slag road car thing was not for you. Why you feel the need to blame ford for the euro thing is beyond me. I bet you drive a Euro car right now dont you? It wouldnt surprise me if you was one of the people back in the day who went out and bought the Euro box cars instead of staying with UK companies?
It is not like the probe followed straight after the Capri, there was a good few years between them.
As for blaming ford for the eurobox thing? how does that work then? Was the MK1 Golf GTi not out before Ford stopped making the capri? so the GTi would of bean the cause for the Eurobox thing... are you trying to say that back in the day, the MK1 was not a great car?
Back when the Cosworth was being made, was Fords peak! Only 1 car out of the ford range really beats the Cosworths when it comes to track/rally etc and that was the GT40. RS500 was a touring car king, Escort Cosworth won countless rallies, even the 4x4 Sierra Cosworth was winning rallies. From the very small amount of detail put in your comments I would say the whole rally slag road car thing was not for you. Why you feel the need to blame ford for the euro thing is beyond me. I bet you drive a Euro car right now dont you? It wouldnt surprise me if you was one of the people back in the day who went out and bought the Euro box cars instead of staying with UK companies?
fatboy18 said:
trixyD said:
I for one can't believe that a car as iconic as this gets any stick on an enthusiasts forum.
I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
Er it may be a Motoring forum but its is not a Ford Enthusiasts forum. Pistonheads started off leaning towards TVR's and now its spread its wings over a wide band of motoring issues. Its clear from YOUR comments that you like the car, good for you, I don't I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
I loved Ford Capri's and Hated the Salons. Personally I blame Ford for all the rounded Jelly mould euro boxes we see on our roads today. Really Horrid. Ford Killed of the Capri then bought out the Probe! What a pile of s##t that was, .....But wait, some people actually went out and bought them...The Horror, The Horror! And don't get me started on the Ka Yuck! Ford lost a lot of customers when the Sierra came out, My Dad switched to the Vauxhall cavalier 1.8 SRI, Now for its time that was a good carI'm into my books, and wouldn't think twice about spending hundreds/thousands of pounds to get the title I wanted in the right condition. I imagine there are people who would call me crazy for that. Do I care, not in the slightest.
And to be fair I don't actually like the styling on the Sierra all that much, but given unlimited funds I would have one for my collection. Just because I could
folos said:
If I had 65k to splurge on a car, this would be one of them. Gorgeous car and a true credit to it's owner.
Each to there own.I personally think 65 grand on a 20 year old Ford, with a 4 cylinder turbo is bonkers money. As a driving machine, it would get blasted into the weeds by hundreds of other machines. But thats just me.
An E-type is gorgeous, or a 288GTO, this isn't.
trixyD said:
I for one can't believe that a car as iconic as this gets any stick on an enthusiasts forum.
I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
I think the price is getting the stick, not the car. I've owned some fast Fords and appreciate the RS500 but not at 65 grand, not matter how rich I was. It's not worth the premium of 25k+ to me just because it's (nearly) the last one they made. I think it's fair to say that the majority of contributors to this thread (myself included) given unlimited funds would actually buy your car.
I hope you sell it mate. If not, cherish it for the years to come, as most of us would love the chance to do.
For all the talk of 'the prices keep going up' the owner himself, in this thread, said he's dropped his asking price by 10k from not all that long ago. Given that this ones right at the top of the market, it doesn't strike me as the worlds most solid investment.
mboon said:
fatboy:
It is not like the probe followed straight after the Capri, there was a good few years between them.
As for blaming ford for the eurobox thing? how does that work then? Was the MK1 Golf GTi not out before Ford stopped making the capri? so the GTi would of bean the cause for the Eurobox thing... are you trying to say that back in the day, the MK1 was not a great car?
Back when the Cosworth was being made, was Fords peak! Only 1 car out of the ford range really beats the Cosworths when it comes to track/rally etc and that was the GT40. RS500 was a touring car king, Escort Cosworth won countless rallies, even the 4x4 Sierra Cosworth was winning rallies. From the very small amount of detail put in your comments I would say the whole rally slag road car thing was not for you. Why you feel the need to blame ford for the euro thing is beyond me. I bet you drive a Euro car right now dont you? It wouldnt surprise me if you was one of the people back in the day who went out and bought the Euro box cars instead of staying with UK companies?
Ok, what I mean by the euro box thing is the Rounded Jelly mould shapes. Angular shapes I personally liked.It is not like the probe followed straight after the Capri, there was a good few years between them.
As for blaming ford for the eurobox thing? how does that work then? Was the MK1 Golf GTi not out before Ford stopped making the capri? so the GTi would of bean the cause for the Eurobox thing... are you trying to say that back in the day, the MK1 was not a great car?
Back when the Cosworth was being made, was Fords peak! Only 1 car out of the ford range really beats the Cosworths when it comes to track/rally etc and that was the GT40. RS500 was a touring car king, Escort Cosworth won countless rallies, even the 4x4 Sierra Cosworth was winning rallies. From the very small amount of detail put in your comments I would say the whole rally slag road car thing was not for you. Why you feel the need to blame ford for the euro thing is beyond me. I bet you drive a Euro car right now dont you? It wouldnt surprise me if you was one of the people back in the day who went out and bought the Euro box cars instead of staying with UK companies?
The Golf GT1 when it first came out was NOT rounded and was a bloody great car, the Audi Quartro 4 wheel drive was not a rounded jelly mould.....So that's where Im coming from
Ford XR3 and the Ford RS2000 were also great cars.As for this bit "I bet you drive a Euro car right now don't you?" Sorry mate, nothing could be further from the truth
My motoring history is in my profile My first car ...Ford Mk 2 Capri
Second Car .....1976 Chevy Camaro, daily driver for over 4,1/2 Years
(Notice the trend) Long bonnet, 2 door fast back
No Jelly moulds for me Justayellowbadge said:
Did I read that correctly?
The RS500's value will overtake that of a RS200?
You sure did , and i also am happy to be quoted that when im proved to be correct The RS500's value will overtake that of a RS200?
What most people dont know is that figures well in excess of 70k have actually been turned down for low miles rs500"s , this is 100% fact and the owner of one of those cars didnt even give it a thought and quickly said " thanks but no thanks "
I have been told personally by a very serious collector that if i can find him a 500 with delivery miles he will pay 100k plus for the car
RS200"s are advertised for over 100k ,but how many have sold ? I know the rs200 registrar and he tells me that realistic prices are 60 to 70k , this figure has already been passed by rs500"s with the same miles etc
Paul
Stu R said:
TheShadow said:
Whats pointless is responding on here to people with closed minds.
Thats the car, thats the price I want for it if someone would like to own it.
Its now in storage until next spring so is eating and costing nothing, so I am more than happy for it to stay that way fo the forseable future.
If anyone has any genuine enquiires drop me a pm and I am happy to answer any questions.
Hopefully this thread dies a natural death like they all seem to do, and the internet warriors can move on to wasting their time about the next issue that has no effect on their lives, but seems to eat them up inside for some reason.
Don't take it personally chap, to each his own and all that. Thats the car, thats the price I want for it if someone would like to own it.
Its now in storage until next spring so is eating and costing nothing, so I am more than happy for it to stay that way fo the forseable future.
If anyone has any genuine enquiires drop me a pm and I am happy to answer any questions.
Hopefully this thread dies a natural death like they all seem to do, and the internet warriors can move on to wasting their time about the next issue that has no effect on their lives, but seems to eat them up inside for some reason.
I love it personally, I don't £65k love it, but I hope you find someone that does. In the mean time feel free to drown the naysayers in a ton of pictures of your P&J, preferably in wallpaper sizes
icetea said:
You're dreaming if you think anyone really knows/cares what a Sierra Cosworth is. A small minority of petrol heads will. To the rest its just a bland old car with a stupid £50 halford spoiler added.
The last time someone was that wrong, they were declaring "peace in our time"....I can't park my Escort Cossie up anywhere or fill it up without being stopped & talked to, people love them generally & IMHO have outgrown the boy racer image, and people are now realising just what a great drivers car they are, and how far ahead of their time they were.
Virtually everyone is positive about them, all versions of the Cosworth were a huge success when they were being sold, and prices are on the up, so someone must be buying them?!
icetea said:
You're dreaming if you think anyone really knows/cares what a Sierra Cosworth is. A small minority of petrol heads will. To the rest its just a bland old car with a stupid £50 halford spoiler added.
I don't think that can be right. 'Cossie' is a special name for enthusiasts, but much like many other famous cars it is well recognised by non enthusiasts as well. 
k-ink said:
I could understand a properly prepared race car, with winning history, in mint condition fetching these sums asked. But not a bog standard road car. Madness IMHO. But I guess it only takes one loony
Try asking what the top prices paid for an Integrale...... or E30 M3 Evolution Sport......or a Merc 190e Evolution 2 ....... Have been.Personally I'm amazed that anyone is amazed on a car enthusiasts site - there's old Ferraris and Bugattis that have sold for a Hundred times these figures of 60/70/80k
I am not amazed the sellers try it on. I certainly don't blame them for giving it a go.
In a similar manner I find it rather amusing that someone recently paid £40k for a rusty old mini. If there is a bandwagon for profit there will be plenty of nutters trying to hop on it. Common sense goes out the window in these situations. Greed takes over. There will be another classic car price crash just like the 1980s all over again. Just try not to be the last person holding the V5 when it happens.
In a similar manner I find it rather amusing that someone recently paid £40k for a rusty old mini. If there is a bandwagon for profit there will be plenty of nutters trying to hop on it. Common sense goes out the window in these situations. Greed takes over. There will be another classic car price crash just like the 1980s all over again. Just try not to be the last person holding the V5 when it happens.
Probably a tad over priced granted, but ten years from now, potentially we could be all be waxing lyrical about us nearly buying that RS500 we got offered for 35 grand that we should have bought and stuck away seeing as they are now north of 100k, might never happen but it does to certain models, perhaps it already has, after all it is only a manky old Sierra, a manky old Sierra that there were only ever 500 (or maybe less), they make more money but not more RS500's, it was the evolution version of a massively important car, that dominated in motorsport and was iconic as a road car, ok it isnt exotic but then there are a lot of exotic cars that never really appreciate relative to their new price, Testarossas, 355's, Diablo's etc, all valuable but not stratospheric.
The Ford fans are fanatical, look at the Mk1/2 Escort people pay a grand for that get supplied in an urn, RS1800's are 50 grand plus, 65k is enthusiastic for this now, but a few years I think it will be up there.
I love these, remember a guy getting (86 Moonstone normal Cosworth 3 door) one who lived opposite my mates house, I was transfixed, it was perfect to the 15 year old me, instead of hanging round waiting for girls to notice me I was wanting a middle aged Terry Nutkins alike to notice me and take me for a spin in his Sierra.
I drove a Sapphire Cosworth once, was a little underwhelmed really.
The Ford fans are fanatical, look at the Mk1/2 Escort people pay a grand for that get supplied in an urn, RS1800's are 50 grand plus, 65k is enthusiastic for this now, but a few years I think it will be up there.
I love these, remember a guy getting (86 Moonstone normal Cosworth 3 door) one who lived opposite my mates house, I was transfixed, it was perfect to the 15 year old me, instead of hanging round waiting for girls to notice me I was wanting a middle aged Terry Nutkins alike to notice me and take me for a spin in his Sierra.
I drove a Sapphire Cosworth once, was a little underwhelmed really.
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