RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth

[s m]

loose cannon said:

Well done you have finally cracked it ;0)

They were all trying to 'halo' ordinary cars

[blade7]

Red 4 said:

heretheygo said:

this is for sale locally.
could find out how much if anyone is interested... neat private plate.



-Ford Focus RS500
-Only 500 in the world (this model 478/500)
-7000KM

Ford marketing at its finest

And at it's lowest were the front wheel drive Escort Mexico and RS2000 .

[s m]

loose cannon said:

Well done you have finally cracked it sm
;0)
The price on any of these types of car depend solely on nostalgia and how deep your pocket is, they all have appeal some more to others,
Would I pay £65k for a sierra no chance,
Ask me again when I have 40 million in the bank I'm sure I might possibly do something stupid and purchase 1,
;0)

Edited by loose cannon on Thursday 4th October 19:31

Would you pay 85k for an Integrale? Would you pay 100k for an E30 M3?

Personally I dont know ...... You might, you might not.

When we have £40 million in the bank we might do like you say. I'd probably have one of each, way before I bought a Veyron. Up till then, I guess neither of us will be buying any cars like this. Doubt they will drop to 3k because we don't though

As you say, they are what they are.....

[loose cannon]

And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

[Roop]

s m said:

630bhp said:

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630bhp said:

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630bhp said:

loose cannon said:

Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph

Spot on.....finally someone with some sense on here!

All these type of cars are based on humdrum kit- majority of which are sub 1k cars now - see old E30s, Merc 190s, Sierras, Deltas, Audi Coupes etc

Yes but BMW E30s and Merc 190s were quality cars to start with....while the Ford Sierra was just crap.

Even more amazing how Ford transformed it into a BTCC winner with a body kit and 16valve head .......

Amazing what spending stloads of money can do!

Same as many factory teams and Motorsport departments

Agreed....but at the end of the day it is still just an old Ford Sierra

True, same as an E30 M3 is just an old BM, an Integrale is just an old Delta etc etc.......

Forget it pal. You're either in the "I get it" camp or the "I don't get it" camp. No point trying to convert anyone...! Different people like different stuff...!!!

[s m]

loose cannon said:

And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........

[loose cannon]

I will drink to that m8ty
Bring on the lucky numbers ;0)

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Roop said:

Yep. That's about right. Not sure about unofficial factory support. Certainly Rouse had this but he was very much running ARE his way.

Reminds me of a story about scrutineers asking a team principle/ driver why the compressor housing had a weld running around it, apparently it had cracked and the weld was a repair alledgedly the housing had been cut open, the inside machined out and then it was welded back together.

[Roop]

s m said:

loose cannon said:

And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........

Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.

[s m]

Roop said:

s m said:

loose cannon said:

And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........

Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.

I'm sure they are great - would be the shoddily thrown together F40 every day of the week for me though

[Roop]

blade7 said:

Roop said:

Yep. That's about right. Not sure about unofficial factory support. Certainly Rouse had this but he was very much running ARE his way.

Reminds me of a story about scrutineers asking a team principle/ driver why the compressor housing had a weld running around it, apparently it had cracked and the weld was a repair alledgedly the housing had been cut open, the inside machined out and then it was welded back together.

Rule number one when looking at a supposedly straight, winning racing car: Its bent...!

[Roop]

s m said:

Roop said:

s m said:

loose cannon said:

And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........

Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.

I'm sure they are great - would be the shoddily thrown together F40 every day of the week for me though

Same here.

[juddzey455]

s m said:

630bhp said:

s m said:

630bhp said:

loose cannon said:

Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph

Spot on.....finally someone with some sense on here!

All these type of cars are based on humdrum kit- majority of which are sub 1k cars now - see old E30s, Merc 190s, Sierras, Deltas, Audi Coupes etc

Yes but BMW E30s and Merc 190s were quality cars to start with....while the Ford Sierra was just crap.

Even more amazing how Ford transformed it into a BTCC winner with a body kit and 16valve head .......

What would you rather a db4 or a db4 GT? ones a road car, once a race car for the road..bit of a difference in price?

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Roop said:

Rule number one when looking at a supposedly straight, winning racing car: Its bent...!

It's only cheating if you get caught .

[s m]

juddzey455 said:

What would you rather a db4 or a db4 GT? ones a road car, once a race car for the road..bit of a difference in price?

I'd have to google them chap and get back to you on that one - they've never really cropped up on my radar.

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loose cannon said:

Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it

The original block was a "selected" pinto block, heard a rumour that Cosworth wanted to use an alloy block but Ford wouldn't pay for it.

[loose cannon]

Bloody bean counters always try to ruin all the fun :0)

[s m]

blade7 said:

loose cannon said:

Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it

The original block was a "selected" pinto block, heard a rumour that Cosworth wanted to use an alloy block but Ford wouldn't pay for it.

Supposedly, at one point they were going to be all silver in colour, then they wanted all black....... but had to make do with whatever colours were left

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s m said:

Supposedly, at one point they were going to be all silver in colour, then they wanted all black....... but had to make do with whatever colours were left

Or Ford had a mountain of Pinto blocks looking for a home.

[juddzey455]

s m said:

I'd have to google them chap and get back to you on that one - they've never really cropped up on my radar.

I work on them, one cost a lot of money DB4 say a 3dr cos and the gt ie race spec cost ALOT more (rs500)...put a name to a winning DB4gt...whack amother 100-200k... on top of that..

its just how it is

The RS500 ARE selling for big money, just like the german, french, italian equivalent of that time are also selling for large sums.

If i could afford it i'd have a F40 or 959