RE: Driven: new Range Rover
Discussion
Dave Hedgehog said:
ignoring the RR side of it, just how big is the market in the UK for 70k+ cars?
Not as big as it was after the squeeze on borrowers which is why all brands at this level are focussing on resource rich countries and penciling UK and EU as 'nice but not necassary'. That said, if we were to make a list of models on sale at over £70k in the UK it would still be a large list and being sold in large numbers.
DonkeyApple said:
Not as big as it was after the squeeze on borrowers which is why all brands at this level are focussing on resource rich countries and penciling UK and EU as 'nice but not necassary'.
The UK is more than 'nice', it's JLR's biggest market with 60,022 units sold last year. Second place is North America (58,033) then China (50,994), Russia (16,142) then Germany (13,675). India was the fastest growing at 153% but that was still only 2,138 vehicles.So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
g3org3y said:
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The days of Range Rover being the preserve of the gentleman are long gone. I'd say they're #1 on the bling bling hit list.
But those are all "Range Rover" Sports, which are chav chariots as they roll off the production line, before the blingmeisters even get their hands on them. They should never IMO have been called RR Sport - they should have been called what they actually are, (Land Rover) Discovery Sport. Equally, the Evoque should have been the (LR) Freelander Sport. JLR have clearly made a packet out of broadening the market for "RR" product, but have cheapened the overall brand in the process.The days of Range Rover being the preserve of the gentleman are long gone. I'd say they're #1 on the bling bling hit list.
That said, I'll be changing my (proper) L322 FFRR for an L405 as soon as my savings match their depreciation curve!
WhereamI said:
The UK is more than 'nice', it's JLR's biggest market with 60,022 units sold last year. Second place is North America (58,033) then China (50,994), Russia (16,142) then Germany (13,675). India was the fastest growing at 153% but that was still only 2,138 vehicles.
So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
The key is the growth and targeting future models at the markets which offer growth. So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
I saw a black one on the roads last week near Leyland, I had to do a double take as I didn't think there were any about yet. Looks very impressive, a big car and very imposing but I like the styling changes.
Cant wait to drive one, Im a huge fan of Range Rovers and they just get better and better.
Cant wait to drive one, Im a huge fan of Range Rovers and they just get better and better.
WhereamI said:
DonkeyApple said:
Not as big as it was after the squeeze on borrowers which is why all brands at this level are focussing on resource rich countries and penciling UK and EU as 'nice but not necassary'.
The UK is more than 'nice', it's JLR's biggest market with 60,022 units sold last year. Second place is North America (58,033) then China (50,994), Russia (16,142) then Germany (13,675). India was the fastest growing at 153% but that was still only 2,138 vehicles.So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
DonkeyApple said:
WhereamI said:
The UK is more than 'nice', it's JLR's biggest market with 60,022 units sold last year. Second place is North America (58,033) then China (50,994), Russia (16,142) then Germany (13,675). India was the fastest growing at 153% but that was still only 2,138 vehicles.
So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
The key is the growth and targeting future models at the markets which offer growth. So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
I would be surprised to see the FFRR replicating these percentages. For example, I wonder if India's 2000 units are nearly all top end units thus making it a more significant current market for the FFRR let alone the growth potential?
Shaw Tarse said:
Garlick said:
Hellbound said:
Was my comment deleted because I linked to youtube? 
Can't see a record of a deletion? We can see what has been removed and I can't spot one from you. Unless the vid was explicit, we wouldn't remove it.
Hellbound said:
This video by Shmee really gives an indication of how premium this car looks on the road. That bulbous/brutish rear end reminds me of the Phantom. It's safe to say the new Rangey can now credibly sit among both Rolls Royce and Bentley camps as a ultra premium vehicle.
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
DonkeyApple said:
WhereamI said:
The UK is more than 'nice', it's JLR's biggest market with 60,022 units sold last year. Second place is North America (58,033) then China (50,994), Russia (16,142) then Germany (13,675). India was the fastest growing at 153% but that was still only 2,138 vehicles.
So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
The key is the growth and targeting future models at the markets which offer growth. So the home market still matters a lot having said that they are exporting around quarter of a million vehicles a year, about 80% of production.
Hellbound said:
Shaw Tarse said:
Garlick said:
Hellbound said:
Was my comment deleted because I linked to youtube?
Can't see a record of a deletion? We can see what has been removed and I can't spot one from you. Unless the vid was explicit, we wouldn't remove it.
Hellbound said:
This video by Shmee really gives an indication of how premium this car looks on the road. That bulbous/brutish rear end reminds me of the Phantom. It's safe to say the new Rangey can now credibly sit among both Rolls Royce and Bentley camps as a ultra premium vehicle.
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
Cassius81 said:
Had the pleasure of a current shape 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE for a weekend a few weeks back, so can give you my view on what is good about them: namely that few cars are as comfortable to cover long distance in. Ride and noise suppression are excellent, performance plentiful. I've travelled in S-class Mercs, BMW 7s - the RR really does compare favourably, plus you get excellent visability (forwards at least) and significant road presence. The latter being useful on a motorway crammed with trucks, vans etc.
Managed an indicated 30mpg over 350 miles, which wasn't too bad given the performance on offer - and the new one is likely to be better still.
So I can see the appeal...
I had to do a long run with this new one & managed 34.2mpg in the SDV8 without even trying! Mind you, all of that went out of the window as soon as I hit the autobahns. Managed an indicated 30mpg over 350 miles, which wasn't too bad given the performance on offer - and the new one is likely to be better still.
So I can see the appeal...
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jdw1234 said:
Hellbound said:
Shaw Tarse said:
Garlick said:
Hellbound said:
Was my comment deleted because I linked to youtube?
Can't see a record of a deletion? We can see what has been removed and I can't spot one from you. Unless the vid was explicit, we wouldn't remove it.
Hellbound said:
This video by Shmee really gives an indication of how premium this car looks on the road. That bulbous/brutish rear end reminds me of the Phantom. It's safe to say the new Rangey can now credibly sit among both Rolls Royce and Bentley camps as a ultra premium vehicle.
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
However what is a shame is it seems to have lost some of its subtle utilitarian agricultural charm. Although you could argue that went a long, long time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBH7w1xvvVs
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