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Yep, I get the flashing from the "overtakee" nearly all the time, as it's just viewed as being unacceptable these days. The noise as I overtake seems to be unappreciated too, but such is the knock-on effect of trying to spend as little time as possible on the other side of the road
I've also noticed that hard-shoulders, on single lane roads where safe, are very rarely used anymore to help faster moving traffic pass
Another thing that drives me mad are rows of tailgating cars ahead, with no interest in completing an overtake themselves, but not allowing sufficient room for others to get by
I've also noticed that hard-shoulders, on single lane roads where safe, are very rarely used anymore to help faster moving traffic pass
Another thing that drives me mad are rows of tailgating cars ahead, with no interest in completing an overtake themselves, but not allowing sufficient room for others to get by
I hardly see anyone overtaking anymore. Even when it's perfectly safe to do so.
Case in point; I was driving my Saab 9-3 Aero home after picking it up down in Kent, I live up in Notts so it was a nice drive home. I was coming into town on the A52 from the A1 Grantham exit, and there is at least one long straight stretch of road on the way in from there.
I arrived at a line of about ten cars on one of the straights, all sat bumper to bumper behind a 40ft artic doing 45mph
Needless to say I overtook them all, and in so doing prompted two of other cars to follow. It's as if no-one dared to make the first move!
Case in point; I was driving my Saab 9-3 Aero home after picking it up down in Kent, I live up in Notts so it was a nice drive home. I was coming into town on the A52 from the A1 Grantham exit, and there is at least one long straight stretch of road on the way in from there.
I arrived at a line of about ten cars on one of the straights, all sat bumper to bumper behind a 40ft artic doing 45mph
Needless to say I overtook them all, and in so doing prompted two of other cars to follow. It's as if no-one dared to make the first move!
I often get flashes and jesticulations from both directions, maybe certain areas contain more angry people than others?
Leins said:
Another thing that drives me mad are rows of tailgating cars ahead, with no interest in completing an overtake themselves, but not allowing sufficient room for others to get by
Same here - on the commute home I often get stuck behind a 10 car + HGV queue, every car 10ft from the one in front and no-one prepared to do anything... :\trixyD said:
I hardly see anyone overtaking anymore. Even when it's perfectly safe to do so.
Case in point; I was driving my Saab 9-3 Aero home after picking it up down in Kent, I live up in Notts so it was a nice drive home. I was coming into town on the A52 from the A1 Grantham exit, and there is at least one long straight stretch of road on the way in from there.
I arrived at a line of about ten cars on one of the straights, all sat bumper to bumper behind a 40ft artic doing 45mph
Needless to say I overtook them all, and in so doing prompted two of other cars to follow. It's as if no-one dared to make the first move!
To overtake 10 cars and a lorry surely it must have crossed your mind that the gap would have been suitable for the first car following the lorry (or any of the other 10) to pull out into your path.Case in point; I was driving my Saab 9-3 Aero home after picking it up down in Kent, I live up in Notts so it was a nice drive home. I was coming into town on the A52 from the A1 Grantham exit, and there is at least one long straight stretch of road on the way in from there.
I arrived at a line of about ten cars on one of the straights, all sat bumper to bumper behind a 40ft artic doing 45mph
Needless to say I overtook them all, and in so doing prompted two of other cars to follow. It's as if no-one dared to make the first move!
I expect that most of them were waiting until safe to pass.
akz0rrr said:
It's certainly not dead in Norfolk, it's a necessity if you ever want to get anywhere. Nearest dual carriageway to where I live is over 25 miles away. And with the, quite frankly amazing, amount of tourists cruising along at 35-40 everywhere everyone seems to overtake everywhere. It's brilliant! I drive from Fakenham to Norwich on the A1067 2 or 3 times a week to see the girlfriend and I don't think I've had a trip down that road in the last month where I've not had to overtake someone. Quite a nice road if you can find it deserted. Unfortunately, between March and October... just full of f
kwits doing 40.
Agreed.kwits doing 40.I used to live in East Rudham and work in Norwich, I used to love that road, that and the B1145/6 kept me sane. Couple of good spots with bends but good sight lines too.
4key said:
I am rarely in a rush so dont need to overtake, i normally only do it because i can and following a slow car is boring.
Add to this the fact that i am quite a childish, easily amused wind up bd and the outcome is that when i am flashed for no reason i wait until i am just out of sight and then pull over off of the road. When they pass me i follow and then overtake again.
My record is with an old bloke in a fiesta that i managed to pass numerous times between harlow and brentwood
This is now going to become my new favourite game.Add to this the fact that i am quite a childish, easily amused wind up b
d and the outcome is that when i am flashed for no reason i wait until i am just out of sight and then pull over off of the road. When they pass me i follow and then overtake again.My record is with an old bloke in a fiesta that i managed to pass numerous times between harlow and brentwood
I seem to have the odd person flash since when I overtake. Just can't see why though. Do people think I'm just going to stay on the other side of the road for a few hundred yards and crash into them??
Edited by DanDC5 on Wednesday 31st October 15:42
Rawhide said:
To overtake 10 cars and a lorry surely it must have crossed your mind that the gap would have been suitable for the first car following the lorry (or any of the other 10) to pull out into your path.
I expect that most of them were waiting until safe to pass.
You would think wouldn't you. However the first car was sat right behind the lorry and could not see anything apart from it's rear doors, and none of the cars were even attempting to look or drift across to see if it was safe to overtake, they were just pootling along happy to follow everyone in front of them. Oblivious to the mile straight of clear road in front of the lorry, and no traffic coming the other way. I expect that most of them were waiting until safe to pass.
I was obviously careful with the overtake, I was in my new car afterall
Frankly, considering the average amount of observance and driving skill (generally falling into the "couldn't drive a greasy stick up a pigs a*se" category!) i agree with brake that people should not be encouraged to overtake. However, they should be encouraged to make room for people who can overtake, rather than just closely follow each other like a row of dogs sniffing the dog infronts bum, without paying any attention to the road or situation around them.............
Try this when you have 15 mins to spare- drive along an NSL single carriageway road at a steady 30mph during rush hour and watch how many people get really wound up, but will not (even on long, clear, well lit straights) overtake!
I did this today, as a social 'f*** you' response to the tool who took great offence to my o/t on the way home last night. Yes, I used teacher style 'you are all getting detention for this' tactics. Surprisingly I do have a life...
I did this today, as a social 'f*** you' response to the tool who took great offence to my o/t on the way home last night. Yes, I used teacher style 'you are all getting detention for this' tactics. Surprisingly I do have a life...
storminnorman said:
what winds me up is having to overtake people driving cars that are so much more capable than mine.
I often wonder at the people overtaking me in "less capable" cars/vans on way to work - there are about 3 safe places to overtake on 10 miles of A road, but traffic then is such it is almost impossible to do so - even when you do, it is rare to get past more than a couple of vehicles. So unless the vehicle is the one holding you up, instead of just leaving a gap - you gain zero for the increased risk - and they often take risks overtaking (one van overtake approaching blind bend just to sit behind car in front and then turn off further along road and no one else did, so net gain zero)B'stard Child said:
And a dying art that I will continue to practise despite the fact that the majority of drivers will sit behind each other like sheep for miles and miles rather than actually make any progress
I used to travel across the country a lot, what I found is it journey would take between 2 hrs 30 mins and 2 hrs 40 mins however I drove - the progress overtaking is often an illusion I overtake a lot yet I have never been flashed by anyone, I can't help wondering whether some peoples definition of a safe overtake may be wildly different from mine if they are getting flashed all the time? I err hugely on the side of caution but I'd rather arrive a few minutes later than risk mine and others lives and property to gain a few seconds.
Don't get me wrong, a thundering V8 powered overtake has me grinning like an idiot for the rest of the day but I see more stupid overtakes from other people than I do safe ones.
Don't get me wrong, a thundering V8 powered overtake has me grinning like an idiot for the rest of the day but I see more stupid overtakes from other people than I do safe ones.
JimmyTheHand said:
B'stard Child said:
And a dying art that I will continue to practise despite the fact that the majority of drivers will sit behind each other like sheep for miles and miles rather than actually make any progress
I used to travel across the country a lot, what I found is it journey would take between 2 hrs 30 mins and 2 hrs 40 mins however I drove - the progress overtaking is often an illusion Point being made was that if you sit behind cars rather than look for opportunity to pass them then you won't get any practice - if you don't practice something you don't get better at it and are less likely to attempt overtakes.
Commonly stated viewpoint is you are are on the wrong side of the road when overtaking - there isn't a wrong side of the road - we just keep left
When I was driver training if you got flashed or fingered after an overtake in an unmarked it was accepted as a good overtake with plenty of space
JM2pW
B'stard Child said:
siovey said:
Overtaking, one of life's little pleasures!! 
^ WHSAnd a dying art that I will continue to practise despite the fact that the majority of drivers will sit behind each other like sheep for miles and miles rather than actually make any progress
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