Tyre labels

[Pints]

Just seen this discussed on BBC Breakfast.
Apparently they will need to have indicators showing road noise, fuel efficiency and stopping efficiency in the wet.

Anybody heard about this?
Thoughts?

ETA links
http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-18870978

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/learn-share/buying...

Edited by Pints on Thursday 1st November 08:32

[MJK 24]

Been coming for a while. I think personally they've missed an opportunity to give some indication of the life of a tyre with regard to how many miles it will likely cover in its lifetime compared to other tyres. A cost per mile I guess.

[Andyjc86]

It also only applies to tyres made after week 26/12. It's something of nothing really. Even the premium brands are scoring badly.

[kambites]

I think it's better than nothing, but they should have gone further.

[BFG TERRANO]

It's a farce. Government box ticking game. The margins between the scores are minimal. So many other factors affect co2 figures its laughable. Pressure, tracking, balance, servicing, driver technique, weather the list goes on.

[kambites]

I wouldn't call an 18m difference in stopping distance from 50mph marginal!

I can see fleet companies being very interested in a 7.5% difference in fuel economy, too.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 1st November 09:14

[miniman]

So many more important things to spend our tax on

[Big Rod]

kambites said:

I wouldn't call an 18m difference in stopping distance from 50mph marginal!

[folos]

miniman said:

So many more important things to spend our tax on

Ahh but what if they use this information to reduce road tax for people with more efficient tyres?

[HustleRussell]

Don't see why people are so negative about this. I'm already using the labels on Pneus-Online and mytyres to help me choose my next set.
What part of independently testing and rating stopping distance, rolling resistance and road noise in a controlled experiment and making the results available to everyone is a waste of time?

[kambites]

HustleRussell said:

Don't see why people are so negative about this.

Because it's been done by the EU and they're so blinkered by their hatred that they think it must be bad?

[jayfrancis]

So if I wanted to do some research into buying new tyres, is this information available anywhere other than on a sticker stuck on the tread?

If not, what's the point. How often do you get to see the tyres fitted to your car before they're fitted? If it's a sticker stuck to the tread all that info will be gone after half a mile of driving.

Pointless waste of time and money unless the info is available elsewhere.

[kambites]

jayfrancis said:

So if I wanted to do some research into buying new tyres, is this information available anywhere other than on a sticker stuck on the tread?

I'd imagine it'll be published in the same way that official fuel economy figures are. There are already websites dedicated to reviewing tyres, I'm sure that they at least will publish the official figures.

[HustleRussell]

JayFrancis- see here for example

http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres-225-...

[jayfrancis]

kambites said:

jayfrancis said:

So if I wanted to do some research into buying new tyres, is this information available anywhere other than on a sticker stuck on the tread?

I'd imagine it'll be published in the same way that official fuel economy figures are.

In that case I should be able to go to a website and compare tyres from today.

I bought two premium tyres this week for quite a lot of money. I'd love to know how they compare with other tyres I could of bought.

[jayfrancis]

HustleRussell said:

JayFrancis- see here for example

http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyres-225-...

Thank you.

[kambites]

Good result for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2, which is good because that's what I'm planning to put on the wife's car.

[Drop Test b3nxj]

Thought this was already on all tyres

Tread wear, Traction, Temprature

IIRC

[jayfrancis]

kambites said:

Good result for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2, which is good because that's what I'm planning to put on the wife's car.

Not so good for the Goodyear Eagle NCT5's I've put on mine.

Mustn't complain too much though, the last set lasted 20,000+ on the front and I still get 50 MPG.

[Mr Whippy]

I wouldn't buy based on them because tyres are so subjective in my view.

It might rate really well and feel like crap to drive overall.

But obviously that is what many cars today are like. They tick all the boxes but are just that, boxes with wheels.

For plenty that is all these tyre labels will achieve, making their dull grey box even more dull.



The tyre stopping distance in the wet as a useful variable to see is a stark point though, and I think the info is valuable to have to look up.
I'm not sure I care for it stamped on the tyre though. It's not like you rock up at the tyre fitters THEN decide which tyre to go for, or go 'browsing' around their warehouse.

And even when labels are shown, people are still stupid and don't read them. Case in point, Gloria Hunniford on her daily rant program. "Moan, these bottles of water have lots of sugar in, this isn't right", despite it having a bloody label saying clearly "LOTS OF SUGAR IN HERE"


Thus I don't get the point in labels for tyres. People who care check tyres out already. Those who don't care won't care about a label... if they did care they'd make a better choice with the ample available resources!

Dave