EU law stipulates Digital tyre pressure gauges

EU law stipulates Digital tyre pressure gauges

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SystemParanoia

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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Ive had a search but cant find a thread about this..

"From today a new EU law will require battery-powered sensors to be fitted inside every tyre"

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-11-01/new-reg...

just saw this on the news..

will this actually help or just yet another expense.. especially as it will now be an MOT failure point eek

News said:
New regulations which come into force today, will compare how various tyres grip the road, and how noisy they are.

From today a new EU law will require battery-powered sensors to be fitted inside every tyre on every new model car.

The sensors, known as the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, or TPMS, will become part of the annual MOT from January 2015, as in two years' time all new cars will have to have them.

At the last count there were more than 26 million cars on Britain's roads, meaning there are well over 100 million tyres on the tarmac at any one time.

However, it is thought that only 4% of people drive with all four tyres properly inflated.

Figures from the EU show that under-inflated tyres are a contributory factor in 9% of all fatal road accidents and 41% per cent of serious injury road accidents.

The figures also estimate that world-wide, 20 million litres of fuel are burnt unnecessarily each year through low tyre pressure, releasing two million tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere.

"The way it works is there's a sensor valve in each wheel that sends a low frequency signal to the car's electronic control unit. If the tyre pressure drops by more than about 20 per cent that's indicated by a symbol appearing on the dashboard."

– MIKE GARWOOD, NATIONAL TYRES
French car makers like Renault, Peugeot and Citroen have been fitting TPMS to some of their models for nearly 10 years, but to most people that warning light would be a bit of a mystery.

In a recent survey, half of drivers couldn't identify it at all and others guessed it meant anything from their engine overheating to their car approaching a cattle grid.

The new sensor will cost anything from £40 to £250 per tyre.

If you happen to suffer a blow out, the sensor could well be damaged and it will need replacing.

If the sensor's battery dies, it will need replacing.

And if you haven't got a spare tyre but want to use your car's puncture repair kit instead, the sealant can clog up the sensor so… it will need replacing.

And then there are the garages.

One independent tyre fitter, trading in Birmingham for 22 years, says the diagnostic equipment needed to implement the system has cost him a small fortune but warns that the expense for customers won't stop at simply buying the sensors.

"I've got to go round to each wheel one at a time getting the readings from the sensor then I have to program the sensor into the management system of the car and that's going to cost, depending on the vehicle, between £50 and £60 each car."

– DOUGLAS COCKS, TYRE FITTER
But the new law, a version of which has been in force in the USA for 12 years, is being welcomed by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

"There are two key benefits from this system. Firstly, your tyres will be safer if they are appropriately inflated and secondly you will be more fuel efficiency if they are appropriately inflated. So safety and fuel economy."

– PAUL EVERITT, SMMT
Of course for a few years yet TPMS will only be compulsory on new cars - but sooner or later they will pass into the second-hand market.

KungFuPanda

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170 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Why does the ITV report state that it affects motorists from the Midlands? Surely it affects all motorists in the EU.

MJK 24

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236 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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More expense for the motorist. I was at my preferred garage this afternoon to have my gearbox oil topped up. They had an Aston Martin DBS in. Must be 3 or 4 years old. All the tyre pressure sensors had failed. £130! Plus VAT! EACH!! Of course you've got to remove the tyres, refit and rebalance on top. Modern cars can be a nightmare!

TheEnd

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188 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I'd surprised, a number of manufacturers tried in-tyre sensors and went to the simpler ABS based systems.

FreeLitres

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177 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Douglas who?

SystemParanoia

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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KungFuPanda said:
Why does the ITV report state that it affects motorists from the Midlands? Surely it affects all motorists in the EU.
yeah, but Londoners can afford it lol hehe

Riley Blue

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226 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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KungFuPanda said:
Why does the ITV report state that it affects motorists from the Midlands? Surely it affects all motorists in the EU.
Because it's the Central news web page that's been quoted.

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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How ridiculous. You could avoid all this (and raise awareness and generate revenue) by actually stopping and checking more cars at the roadside.

dazren

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261 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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MJK 24 said:
More expense for the motorist. I was at my preferred garage this afternoon to have my gearbox oil topped up. They had an Aston Martin DBS in. Must be 3 or 4 years old. All the tyre pressure sensors had failed. £130! Plus VAT! EACH!! Of course you've got to remove the tyres, refit and rebalance on top. Modern cars can be a nightmare!
Had these sensors go (batteries died) on an 02 SL500 merc when the car was 7 years old. Total cost to do all four corners at an inde was £470. The sensors were £73.50+vat each. Ridiculous legislating that all cars must have these damned things. All because some people are too stupid to keep an eye on tyre pressures.

egomeister

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263 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Does anyone have a link to the relevant legislation for this? I'd be amazed if it specifically stated that it should be a battery powered system as mentioned in the article.

Athlon

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206 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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This all comes from those bloody run flats..

jagracer

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236 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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You can buy a very good after market kit for around £90, a mate of mine uses them for his trailer.

r11co

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230 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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The prices will fall dramatically when they become commonplace (although manufacturers will still find ways to try and gouge such as creating incompatible systems).

I'd be happier if they stipulated a standard protocol for these so that the pressure sensors could be interchanged between vehicles. Not doing so makes as much sense as having non-standard tyre valves...!

SystemParanoia

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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or just leave well enough alone! ffs.. why not create new laws on knitting, and sewing and weaving lentils etc instead frown

kiteless

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204 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Article said:
New EU law will require
The EU requires a weapons-grade buttfking. Just ps off with these "laws" that seem to do nothing more than justify the existence of non-job cocksockets, backslapping and teabagging each other in Belgian corporate khazis.

^ mini-rant more suited to NP&E? hmmm


Ecurie Ecosse

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218 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Athlon said:
This all comes from those bloody run flats..
Or the Porsche 928.

SystemParanoia

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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jagracer said:
You can buy a very good after market kit for around £90, a mate of mine uses them for his trailer.
Umm.. if I drop several grand on a new(ish) car, and suffer the misfortune of having my sensors fail... I don't want this ugly thing looking back at me for £90


Lotusevoraboy

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147 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Already have this on the Evora!

Already said elsewhere that I reckon the ever encroaching state interference is resembling Germany in the 30s and was berated for it, but for me this latest piece of legislation is yet another example. Like everything else, GB will comply, Portugal, Greece, Spain et al will ignore it!

MJK 24

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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Ecurie Ecosse said:
Or the Porsche 928.
Did the 928 have a pressure monitoring system?

jagracer

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Thursday 1st November 2012
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SystemParanoia said:
jagracer said:
You can buy a very good after market kit for around £90, a mate of mine uses them for his trailer.
Umm.. if I drop several grand on a new(ish) car, and suffer the misfortune of having my sensors fail... I don't want this ugly thing looking back at me for £90

Well that's no good for a car that's built after Jan 2013 as it'll need to work properly for the MOT when It's due in 2015 or whenever. I was more thinking about if some tit in the EU decided they had to be retro fitted.