RE: You Know You Want To: Lamborghini Murcielago
Discussion
rajkohli81 said:
Mr Whippy said:
Guvernator said:
While I admire the Murcielago for what it is, If I was buying a Lamborghini to actually drive rather than pose on the Kings Road, I'd choose it's smaller brother the Gallardo every time.
Why? Simple the Murci is huge, so big in fact that it becomes pretty pointless on most of our small UK roads, add in the fact that it has very poor rear visibility and I'd be a very nervous owner indeed.
The Gallardo in comparison might not be as dramatic but it's the perfect size, sharper and a better drivers car IMO. £75K will also get you a very decent Gallardo rather than a Murci from a dealer with a "reputation".
Interesting.Why? Simple the Murci is huge, so big in fact that it becomes pretty pointless on most of our small UK roads, add in the fact that it has very poor rear visibility and I'd be a very nervous owner indeed.
The Gallardo in comparison might not be as dramatic but it's the perfect size, sharper and a better drivers car IMO. £75K will also get you a very decent Gallardo rather than a Murci from a dealer with a "reputation".
I've only driven Lambos on runways hehe, but the Gallardo was my fave too... and no doubt that would only become more the case on an actual road.
Murcielago seemed to have a mega blind spot at the A pillar which meant moving your head either in or out to see around (and you'd bang your head moving it out), and it's pretty wide too.
Gallardo had all the drama but just 'worked' for me.
I think they even look better in the skin too.
/runs and hides
Found early Gallardo pretty disappointing to drive myself. Snatchy drivetrain.. just felt like a prototype, slightly quicker R8. Even the V10 noise wasn't as dramatic as I thought it would be. Still, each to their own I guess.
I'm a firm subscriber to that philosophy so perhaps it applies here
Dave
FisiP1 said:
The rear lights are the worst thing for me.
Lights have become much more of a styling exercise in the past few years, and personally I like the way things are going. These lights look like they were designed with function in mind and nothing more.
The rear lights and exhaust is a lot better executed on the lp640, as is the front bumper. Lights have become much more of a styling exercise in the past few years, and personally I like the way things are going. These lights look like they were designed with function in mind and nothing more.
Personally for me, my dream car has always been a Lambo....starting with a Countash 25th Anv, then the early Diable moving to the 6ltr, and then a Murcielago, moving with the times but never thought I would have one.
When the Gallardo came out it gave me hope as the baby of the house was cheaper and possibly easier to reach etc etc. The first lambo I drove was an LP570 Superleggera at Millbrook and I hated it to start with. However, after a few goes I loved it and had to have one someday.
While I was trying to put a plan of action together, doing the sums etc to get myself into an LP560 or wait a little longer for a 570 to come into budget I had a light bulb moment. Why not go for the original murcie instead. Considerably under budget, more of a drama, won't lose so much money type thinking! So I hunted around and found a few early examples. What soon became clear was they may look cheap with the screen sticker, but if the service history is not up to date and items have not been kept on top of then things start to look very expensive indeed.
Now, regardless of the dealer, depending on how the featured car has been treated throughout its life you could be looking at a minter for £75k where nothing needs doing on it.....or if it has been neglected you could be looking at a bill of £5k, £10k, £15k etc to put it right depending on what needs doing. Now my thinking would suggest if it was a minter then it should be on the market for more, and I'll leave it there.
So, after all the pit falls, let downs, head scratching, heart ache... I decided to hell with it, put a little more cash into the kitty, went to a proper Lambo dealer to see an LP640 which had full verified history, came with a warranty, fell in love and the rest is history.
I would do it again if I could, but knowing what I know now the process would be a lot quicker and easier getting to the right car, for the right money, from the right person/dealer.
It's like anything you buy in life, if something looks too cheap, there is probably a good reason for it being so! What's the phrase....buyer beware! Got to do your homework and know the product better than the guy selling it.
Anyway, they are simply amazing cars to drive and own, with the experience getting better with the later cars in terms of driving imho. Everything is an event and so far I have only had good/great reactions to the car. One of the best things I have ever done. Right up there with getting marries and having to great kids.
If these are your dream machines, do the homework, set your budget and happy hunting but make sure you get it inspected before you buy...... That way you won't regret it.
Here's some inspiration to get you going.....
When the Gallardo came out it gave me hope as the baby of the house was cheaper and possibly easier to reach etc etc. The first lambo I drove was an LP570 Superleggera at Millbrook and I hated it to start with. However, after a few goes I loved it and had to have one someday.
While I was trying to put a plan of action together, doing the sums etc to get myself into an LP560 or wait a little longer for a 570 to come into budget I had a light bulb moment. Why not go for the original murcie instead. Considerably under budget, more of a drama, won't lose so much money type thinking! So I hunted around and found a few early examples. What soon became clear was they may look cheap with the screen sticker, but if the service history is not up to date and items have not been kept on top of then things start to look very expensive indeed.
Now, regardless of the dealer, depending on how the featured car has been treated throughout its life you could be looking at a minter for £75k where nothing needs doing on it.....or if it has been neglected you could be looking at a bill of £5k, £10k, £15k etc to put it right depending on what needs doing. Now my thinking would suggest if it was a minter then it should be on the market for more, and I'll leave it there.
So, after all the pit falls, let downs, head scratching, heart ache... I decided to hell with it, put a little more cash into the kitty, went to a proper Lambo dealer to see an LP640 which had full verified history, came with a warranty, fell in love and the rest is history.
I would do it again if I could, but knowing what I know now the process would be a lot quicker and easier getting to the right car, for the right money, from the right person/dealer.
It's like anything you buy in life, if something looks too cheap, there is probably a good reason for it being so! What's the phrase....buyer beware! Got to do your homework and know the product better than the guy selling it.
Anyway, they are simply amazing cars to drive and own, with the experience getting better with the later cars in terms of driving imho. Everything is an event and so far I have only had good/great reactions to the car. One of the best things I have ever done. Right up there with getting marries and having to great kids.
If these are your dream machines, do the homework, set your budget and happy hunting but make sure you get it inspected before you buy...... That way you won't regret it.
Here's some inspiration to get you going.....
Camlet said:
I loved the Murci. Just didn't have the bottle to follow through. I test drove one, loved its outrageous personality (and the manual button to lift the air vents) so placed an order for it in Grigio Antares, which looked fantastic. Problem was a few weeks later Mrs Camlet and I followed a Murci over speed bumps near our home. I was driving her Rangey. The driver in the Lambo was accelerating hard between speed bumps then braking hard, crawling over each bump and beginning the drag start for another few feet. All with a huge sports exhaust bellowing away. We were wafting along behind. By the seventh bump Mrs Camlet looked over to me, calmly pointed out the driver was a complete plonker, made a comment about middle aged men driving such cars and said cancel the order. Yes, I admit I was a total wuss but if you knew Mrs Camlet you'd know it was pointless to argue. Still, loved the fun of the car though. And I say full marks to Audi for making it happen.
Thats tragic.No car buying decision of that magnitude should involve a wench. You complete pussy.
jeremyc said:
My weekend with one.
Awesome, but curiously stressful in terms of logistics. I'm sure I'd get used to it under long term ownership.
I've driven that car too when I was a member at Ecurie25. It was a great car to be on their list (not for them) as I only managed to drive it on the fouth time of booking, the first three times it was broken down which meant when they cancelled it on me I got another supercar to drive for a fraction of the normal points.Awesome, but curiously stressful in terms of logistics. I'm sure I'd get used to it under long term ownership.
When I did finally get to drive it the driver's door lock was broken and the bonnet kept popping open on the road. When I phoned Ecurie to tell them this they said they could come and pick it up but it would probably be the last chance to drive it was for sale. I said I'd have a go at fixing the bonnet so as I'm reasonable proficient with a spanner I took the bonnet catch mechanism apart re-aligned it and it was okay for the rest of the time I had with the car. And I just didn't shout about the door being unlocked in the places I left it parked.
They are most certainly an event.
I bought that Murcielago
Correct dealer very suspect but got really good independent inspection and took the plunge
What a great car
Since picking it up I’ve had an annual main dealer service. A battery and a clutch
I love it
A real cool car and an even better investment
I have investigated the history and found the actual car was Lambo’s original press car. I’ve even sourced a couple of old car mags with tests and reviews from 2002/3. Interesting in the tests back then the journalists all placed above the best Ferraris, 911’s and Aston’s if the day
Need I say more
Correct dealer very suspect but got really good independent inspection and took the plunge
What a great car
Since picking it up I’ve had an annual main dealer service. A battery and a clutch
I love it
A real cool car and an even better investment
I have investigated the history and found the actual car was Lambo’s original press car. I’ve even sourced a couple of old car mags with tests and reviews from 2002/3. Interesting in the tests back then the journalists all placed above the best Ferraris, 911’s and Aston’s if the day
Need I say more
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