RE: Driven: Toyota GT86 JRM Racing/Sumo Power
Discussion
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
FWDRacer said:
The counter argument wasn't based on comparing designs of certain ages, it was to highlight the blind reassurance based on crud journalism that this Toyobaru and only effectively a RWD car was essentially right, and anything else was wrong wheel drive and hence couldn't be appreciated for it's exploitability/handling balance, and wouldn't therefore be an appropriate car to track.
Using the Pug - I was stressing a point to make one. A 1.9 GTi with some torsion beam work would still lay waste to this brand spanking new focused sports car mind. Progress Eh?
Anyways - back to my knitting.
I bet it wouldn't, since when has a 205 been a competent track tool? Usually see them being over enthusiastically driven understeering all over the place by fan boys in full race suits etc at trackdays.Using the Pug - I was stressing a point to make one. A 1.9 GTi with some torsion beam work would still lay waste to this brand spanking new focused sports car mind. Progress Eh?
Anyways - back to my knitting.
ScoobieWRX said:
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
OllieC said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
yes, love this
Hellbound said:
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
Where are you getting that news? To be honest I think that is a great idea. The current car is slighlty off the pace but not by much, another 20-30bhp would make it a bit more exciting and they should try to do something about the slightly boring exhaust note while they are at it. This could then be a very good base spec model to which they could then add a second version at a later date with a turbo\supercharger, a GT86-S if you will. That way those who want the cheaper\purer na option have can have that and the "more power" brigade can have a version too.
Oddball RS said:
OllieC said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
yes, love this
Taking it to the track for a laugh, yes.
My friend Bradley Smith is driving in the yellow radical in one of these pics. One of the only test days I didn't go to, I'm gutted! Love the GT86 though, want 
If Bertbert et al see this yes I know it's Lewis's car but Brad is driving, still space in the lorry for next year I believe
If Bertbert et al see this yes I know it's Lewis's car but Brad is driving, still space in the lorry for next year I believe
I'm really disliking the PH stance on tuned cars. Sure, the Max Power generation didn't help matters, but to nearly dismiss the tuning world as entirely like that, body kits or not, is stupid.
I actually quite like the look of this kit. It's not in your face or anything.
As for the rest of the tuning, fantastic. Give us more. Feature more proper tuned cars I say. There are plenty of companies around who take great road cars and tweak them and the resulting end product is brilliant. But they are ignored due to the whole stigma of tuned/modded=chav.
I actually quite like the look of this kit. It's not in your face or anything.
As for the rest of the tuning, fantastic. Give us more. Feature more proper tuned cars I say. There are plenty of companies around who take great road cars and tweak them and the resulting end product is brilliant. But they are ignored due to the whole stigma of tuned/modded=chav.
I think to some badge concious PHers tuning marques like Noble, Lotus, Atom, Bentley etc..., is something on a different level/scale to tuning a Subaru, Ford, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota etc... To the rest of us tuning is tuning and there's nothing chav about it which is the way it should be.
IMHO i think it's mainly badge snobbery and the fact their cars are perceived by their owners to have a better/higher pedigree and therefore more worthy and as far from Chav as you will ever get. Although i don't subscribe to anything in the Max Power vein, it has to be said this notion of tuning = Chav is pretty old hat and getting extremely tired now.
We tune our cars to handle better, stop/slowdown quickly and to make them more powerful.
Does it really matter what it is you're tuning when we all just want the same ends??
IMHO i think it's mainly badge snobbery and the fact their cars are perceived by their owners to have a better/higher pedigree and therefore more worthy and as far from Chav as you will ever get. Although i don't subscribe to anything in the Max Power vein, it has to be said this notion of tuning = Chav is pretty old hat and getting extremely tired now.
We tune our cars to handle better, stop/slowdown quickly and to make them more powerful.
Does it really matter what it is you're tuning when we all just want the same ends??
Hellbound said:
Oddball RS said:
OllieC said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
yes, love this
Taking it to the track for a laugh, yes.
Aerofoil said:
Take the spoiler off the back, remove the tyre wall writing and tone down the colours, I can't see it looking that more OTT than some hot hatches. Certainly no more unruly than a Sagaris.
You're right, it would be no different than driving this around;
Sorry, not for me.
RemarkLima said:
Now, let me say it... It needs more power! 
Well, with AP's, Toyo R888's, uber suspension etc. it does 100% need more power, otherwise you'll have more grip than you could ever use.
So yeah, needs more power
Agree completely, I thought the whole point of this car was that you could slide it around easily because it wasn't running hugely wide, grippy tyres. If you stick R888s and sort the suspension you've immediately added a lot of grip and thus killed what this car was meant to be about. If you have in the process created a great handling track car then it needs more power, especially at the price it's going to come in at. In fact you need more power for the road as well, so that the fun element (over coming grip) can be added back. All getting a bit circular (and expensive) now!Well, with AP's, Toyo R888's, uber suspension etc. it does 100% need more power, otherwise you'll have more grip than you could ever use.
So yeah, needs more power
EDLT said:
I stopped reading there, that and the crap at the start about tuned cars not being "PH-worthy" is just pathetic.
Only just seen this article but agree with this point entirely. Given the number of tuned cars on this forum that is a bit of an uneducated/ignorant/snobbish view to take. Hellbound said:
Oddball RS said:
OllieC said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Hellbound said:
Going by a lot of the comments in this thread, I'm going to assume these various bolt on kits available also come with a 5 year warranty too.
Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
That looks awesome!! Totally love it!!Like I said earlier, the latest news suggests that Toyota and Subaru are going to abandon any plans of offering forced induction and instead will look at add another 20+bhp through other means.
If that's not good enough, you may as well go ahead and turn your new GT86 into something ridiculous like this;
Things that make you go Mmmmmm!!
yes, love this
Taking it to the track for a laugh, yes.
I really cant imagine just how grim it would be to have car purchases determined by my surroundings and what the "Jones's" think of it.
I feel sorry for those encumbered with this bizarre image OCD.
It would appear the writer of this article is an image before substance bore as well.
As soon as a manufacturers tuning kit is made available (half as good as a pro-tuner offering) theyre all over it like a fat kid on a cake.
Leave them too it I say.
It simply highlights these folk dont really know all that much about what theyre talking/writing about.
It seems this fear of tuning is mainly due to their having such a poor understanding of the mechanical aspects of tuning and tuner upgrades. Combine this with being too lazy to do any work to find out what is going on this type finds it easier/lazier to let the manufacturer do it so they simply have to do nothing. Except parrot the figure handed to them down the pub to anyone who will listen.
Saddest part is when they try to berate the people who do know better.
Edited by Pistonwot on Saturday 1st December 12:35
i saw on FB Litchfield are taking pre-orders now for their supercharger kit.
Looks to boost power and torque rather nicely!
http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/gt86_brz_info_r...
Looks to boost power and torque rather nicely!
http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/gt86_brz_info_r...
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