RE: Key theft gang jailed
Discussion
Prof Prolapse said:
Captain Muppet said:
Jakdaw said:
Interesting statistics... so:
66% stolen using owners' keys
2% stolen after 'hotwiring'
... so does that leave 32% stolen with the BMW OBD attack? Or are there other possibilities or vulnerable manufacturers. Can't believe a significant number are stolen other than under their own power (ie towed / lifted into a lorry etc)
From just looking at an empty driveway how do you tell if the car was hotwired, started with a duplicate key or beamed up from space? Surely the data can only be based on recovered cars, so it can't be that trustworthy.66% stolen using owners' keys
2% stolen after 'hotwiring'
... so does that leave 32% stolen with the BMW OBD attack? Or are there other possibilities or vulnerable manufacturers. Can't believe a significant number are stolen other than under their own power (ie towed / lifted into a lorry etc)
The quote is "A survey by insurer LV in October found that that the owners' keys are used in two thirds of the 150,000 cars stolen each year."
So it says keys are "used" not keys are "stolen first".
mrmr96 said:
That would surely count as using owners keys?
Captain Muppet said:
They would be included in the 66% that involve the owners' keys.
Jakdaw said:
They'd both be "with the owners' keys" no?
Actually lads. Just a hunch but I'm thinking they might be covered under stolen using owners keys. I was thinking more, taken from house vs. car jacked, but yeah over/under thought that one...
sanguinary said:
Twoshoe said:
I don't know why more manufacturers don't have a keypad in addition to the ignition key, like Citroen Xantias do/did. Therefore you cannot start the car without having both the key and the PIN.
Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
I unplugged the keypad on my old Xantia whilst doing some work on the car. It still started fine.Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
devnull said:
sanguinary said:
Twoshoe said:
I don't know why more manufacturers don't have a keypad in addition to the ignition key, like Citroen Xantias do/did. Therefore you cannot start the car without having both the key and the PIN.
Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
I unplugged the keypad on my old Xantia whilst doing some work on the car. It still started fine.Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
devnull said:
sanguinary said:
Twoshoe said:
I don't know why more manufacturers don't have a keypad in addition to the ignition key, like Citroen Xantias do/did. Therefore you cannot start the car without having both the key and the PIN.
Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
I unplugged the keypad on my old Xantia whilst doing some work on the car. It still started fine.Say what you like about Xantias, but they were bloomin' hard to nick!
ds.
threespires said:
Swimbo's best friend had her new A3 stolen last night.
2 hoodies were hiding in her front garden. When she got out of her car they threatened her with a lump hammer, took her keys and drove off.
And if you made people enter a PIN number to start a car, you'd get more of this. Instead of waking up in the morning to find your house burgled, and your car keys and car gone, you'd be waking up to someone in a balaclava and bat wanting your Pin number.2 hoodies were hiding in her front garden. When she got out of her car they threatened her with a lump hammer, took her keys and drove off.
Ummm so we send them to jail where, as taxpayers, we cover the cost of them playing pool, networking with other crims and increasing their general theivery knowledge and perhaps gaining a degree.
Its a joke, the middle east may be a fairly messed up place at present but they have a much more obvious approach to criminality and dealing with it. I reckon most petty scumbag, derserving to be sent down for a lot longer and get bumm3d in jail, morons would think twice if an example was made of these stains and they had their hands lopped off. 'there you go sonny, try hot wiring a car with your new stumps'.
Tougher penalties needed as jail does not detir these types as jail itself is not tough enough.
Rant over.
Its a joke, the middle east may be a fairly messed up place at present but they have a much more obvious approach to criminality and dealing with it. I reckon most petty scumbag, derserving to be sent down for a lot longer and get bumm3d in jail, morons would think twice if an example was made of these stains and they had their hands lopped off. 'there you go sonny, try hot wiring a car with your new stumps'.
Tougher penalties needed as jail does not detir these types as jail itself is not tough enough.
Rant over.
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