RE: You Know You Want To: Jaguar XKR

RE: You Know You Want To: Jaguar XKR

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monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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VladD said:
As for the XKR, I love the front of the old one and the back on the new one. I've love an XKR to replace my S-Type, but I'm not sure I want an auto box any more.
Please, please, please try the new XK (X150) before you dismiss it.

The transmission in the X150 is a revelation, and is night and day when compared with Jag auto boxes of old (J-gate), which were awful.

Just try it. smile



Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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The real value lies with the XJ of the same period. Same 4.2 V8, similar aluminium construction, more practical space and I've just bought one for buttons.

This nicely compliments the earlier XK8 Convertible I have, which I think is considerably more aesthetically attractive and no less engaging to drive, even if it does only have the 4.0l.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
The real value lies with the XJ of the same period. Same 4.2 V8, similar aluminium construction, more practical space and I've just bought one for buttons.
They come in at less than half the price don't they?

Same as the last generation XJ/XK. Largely the same running gear and performance at a fraction of the cost.

JohnWatkins

97 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Picking mine up tomorrow wink

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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JohnWatkins said:
Picking mine up tomorrow wink
Shame you couldn't get one that doesn't have a butchered grill...

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Prof Prolapse said:
They come in at less than half the price don't they?

Same as the last generation XJ/XK. Largely the same running gear and performance at a fraction of the cost.
Just paid £7k for mine. Almost spotless, 80,000 miles, full Jaguar service history.

g7jhp

Original Poster:

6,967 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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DJRC said:
Thats all well and good, but it then shouldnt be criticised for being rolly and heavy and not sharp. Its actually amusing that the gibbon in that first post states because of this he went to buy a 996TT instead, which the GT3 girls all diss because its too soft.
The 996 turbo (Audi does the TT) is razor sharp compared to a XKR it's also a very good road car in all traffic conditions. It maybe soft compared to a GT3 , but a 996 turbo is a usable on adaily basis - GT3 owners often state they couldn't use it in traffic due to the heavy clutch.





Domf

286 posts

156 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Just paid £7k for mine. Almost spotless, 80,000 miles, full Jaguar service history.
The reason XJ's are so cheap is many have blistering paintwork,seen models as late as 57 plate with this, the trade know it and auction prices reflect it. Also seen 06 XK's with this problem. Paint adhesion with the aluminium bodies, Jaguar have had problems.

Alfa numeric

3,027 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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NGK210 said:
Aye, it's a great tragedy that Ian McCallum's original/intended twin-headlamp design was vetoed by Ford's US el supremos, who deemed the styling "too radical" for Jag's "traditional US customer base" - ie, golf-playing BOFs.

Autocar ran a 'leaked' pic of the full-size prototype - it looked chuffing cool irked
Anybody got a link to this? I'd love to see what it looked like.

SpudLink

5,836 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Mon Ami Mate said:
To my eyes, that's the best looking Jag on this thread so far.

(I think I have a pic somewhere of a previous car parked in the same spot

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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g7jhp said:
Seem to have upset someone.

At no point did I say it was a track car (I have owned a Caterham so I know the difference).

All I pointed out was the weight was very noticeable. To expand it rolls alot incorners and it was heavy under braking due to the sheer weight of the car (the weight was pointed out in the original article). This may be OK for the US but in the UK you still encounter roundabouts, twisty A/B roads and long sweeping bends on the road.

The 996 turbo isn't a track car, it's a great GT (some may require a little more comfort), but it also does the twisty stuff pretty well.

Hope that calms you down biggrin


That simply isn't true. On the road the suspension is perfectly firm. Feels very light for a GT IMO.

My only gripe with the 5.0 is that the supercharger whine has vanished. The 4.2 sounded better on WOT, though I do like the sportier exhaust note on the 5.0.

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Phase 2 XKR, 5.0. It's my Dads car, he's previously owned a 4.2 XKR cabrio, a 4.2 XK60 cabrio, and had a mk1 XK8 coupe years ago.

Edited by j_s14a on Thursday 29th November 16:27

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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monthefish said:
Please, please, please try the new XK (X150) before you dismiss it.

The transmission in the X150 is a revelation, and is night and day when compared with Jag auto boxes of old (J-gate), which were awful.

Just try it. smile


I loved the old J gate boxes, though the new one definitely suits the XK more.

NGK210

2,946 posts

146 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Alfa numeric said:
NGK210 said:
Aye, it's a great tragedy that Ian McCallum's original/intended twin-headlamp design was vetoed by Ford's US el supremos, who deemed the styling "too radical" for Jag's "traditional US customer base" - ie, golf-playing BOFs.

Autocar ran a 'leaked' pic of the full-size prototype - it looked chuffing cool irked
Anybody got a link to this? I'd love to see what it looked like.
It was published in the mag, not sure if it also appeared on autocar.co.uk.

Perhaps a kind PH staffer can have a word with a Haymarket colleague at Autocar's pic archive..? smile

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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j_s14a said:
I loved the old J gate boxes, though the new one definitely suits the XK more.
yikes


I hated them. Slow and ponderous, even on an upshift cruising on the motorway i.e.
Third.
Move handle to 4...
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blackchrome917

69 posts

149 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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seopher said:
This is one of my favourite posts in the entirety of PH. Congratulations sir, it captures the petrolhead spirit perfectly. You fking loonatic biggrin
+1

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Pretty car, but i would have it in black.

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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monthefish said:
yikes


I hated them. Slow and ponderous, even on an upshift cruising on the motorway i.e.
Third.
Move handle to 4...
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...into 4th.


Absolutely. Not sporty in the slightest, but was smooth, refined and felt at home in a luxury coupe. The newer XKs are a sportier offering, and the new gearbox is brilliant.

V8 FOU

2,977 posts

148 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Drove an early XKR last year. Very dissapointed. Not that fast and sooo heavy and ponderous handling.
Probably why I bought the Esprit!

StainlessSteve32

70 posts

147 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Not knocking your Lotus but try driving it to Spain and back, 1300 miles each way, my XKR didn't miss a beat and I got out both ends feeling as fresh as a daisy.biggrin