RE: BMW 4 Series - official
Discussion
ZesPak said:
kambites said:
You misunderstand what I meant by "decent sized". I meant something you can shove a fridge freezer in if you need to; or that you can easily carry a couple of Great Danes around in.
I'm sure plenty of people need more luggage capacity than a saloon can offer without needing four seats.
I'm sure plenty of people need more luggage capacity than a saloon can offer without needing four seats.
Hth.
A far better example would have been the 3-series estate with the seats folded down, but plenty of people seem to have a bizarre dislike of driving something that looks like an estate.
I suppose I'm thinking of something like a 3-door version of the A5 sportback.
Edited by kambites on Friday 7th December 11:42
kambites said:
ZesPak said:
kambites said:
You misunderstand what I meant by "decent sized". I meant something you can shove a fridge freezer in if you need to; or that you can easily carry a couple of Great Danes around in.
I'm sure plenty of people need more luggage capacity than a saloon can offer without needing four seats.
I'm sure plenty of people need more luggage capacity than a saloon can offer without needing four seats.
Hth.
Guvernator said:
ZesPak said:
kambites said:
I was thinking of it more as a 2+2 coupe with a decent sized boot.
Isn't that exactly what the 3 series coupé is?
Kambites means some like the 3 series touring, with the styling of (and number of doors of) the coupe. I see the point in it.
Guvernator said:
So you want a car that's decent to drive but you need to carry round a fridge or some dogs but you don't really need 4 doors or easy access to the rear seats. Sorry have to agree with Zespak on this one, they fill a requirement that is so obfuscous it's pretty pointless, a niche too far IMO.
So like most of the cars coming out of Germany these days, then? 
E38Ross said:
I do laugh when people say "another pointless model" to new German cars.
It's as if loads of PH members know better than the marketing department than ridiculously successful, multi-billion pound companies.
Oh, and the models sell. So clearly they know something.
But ALL manufacturers lose their way at some stage It's as if loads of PH members know better than the marketing department than ridiculously successful, multi-billion pound companies.
Oh, and the models sell. So clearly they know something.
E38Ross said:
I do laugh when people say "another pointless model" to new German cars.
It's as if loads of PH members know better than the marketing department than ridiculously successful, multi-billion pound companies.
Oh, and the models sell. So clearly they know something.
They sell because marketing departments have now become VERY good at making a product AND THEN creating the demand for it by making the public think they want\need it. This is how those multi-billion pound companies have become even more successful over the last decade It's as if loads of PH members know better than the marketing department than ridiculously successful, multi-billion pound companies.
Oh, and the models sell. So clearly they know something.
Guvernator said:
They sell because marketing departments have now become VERY good at making a product AND THEN creating the demand for it by making the public think they want\need it. This is how those multi-billion pound companies have become even more successful over the last decade
It doesn't matter why people buy a car; if it sells, it's not pointless (at least as far as the manufacturer is concerned). kambites said:
Guvernator said:
They sell because marketing departments have now become VERY good at making a product AND THEN creating the demand for it by making the public think they want\need it. This is how those multi-billion pound companies have become even more successful over the last decade
It doesn't matter why people buy a car; if it sells, it's not pointless (at least as far as the manufacturer is concerned). PH - a complete lack of choice matters.
kambites said:
Guvernator said:
They sell because marketing departments have now become VERY good at making a product AND THEN creating the demand for it by making the public think they want\need it. This is how those multi-billion pound companies have become even more successful over the last decade
It doesn't matter why people buy a car; if it sells, it's not pointless (at least as far as the manufacturer is concerned). 
te cars that fill up our roads these days Anyway straying wildly off topic so err..the new 4 is decent looking IMO and will look even better in the flesh IMO. Let's hope it doesn't weigh 2 tonnes and has decent ride quality to match.
kambites said:
tjlazer said:
...it's the future. Get used to it...
As is the death of the internal combustion engine, that doesn't mean people have to like it. BTW you actually seem to like this BMW!
I think that this is the best looking car they've produced for years, along with the 6 Series GranCoupe (the normal 6 Series is looking good to me too now I see it around a lot, whereas the last one always looked droopy-snouted and heavy tailed).
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