RE: BMW 4 Series - official

[Tomatogti]

I'd be amazed if the M version is called the M3. It'll be the M4, they will just wait a while until people become more used to the 4 series as the name of the Coupe before announcing it. Whilst M3 is an iconic name, it is just a name and it's the car that counts. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet!

[dazsmith69]

lovely proportioned car

front and back bumpers are ugly though. Needs a deeper bumper at the front, looks too high

[Craiglamuffin]

Tomatogti said:

I'd be amazed if the M version is called the M3. It'll be the M4, they will just wait a while until people become more used to the 4 series as the name of the Coupe before announcing it. Whilst M3 is an iconic name, it is just a name and it's the car that counts. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet!

Absolutely. There was a time before the first M3 when the 3 series must have just been a relatively boring saloon. The new M3 will once again be a hot version of a saloon.

[MarJay]

I want an M4.

[Turbobanana]

brakes said:

Love today's pictures - very aggressive and mean-looking. Can't wait to see what M-division can do with it.

Is "aggressive" styling really a selling point? Why does a car need to look "aggressive"?

[Agoogy]

angry car is angry...

not bothered about the naming convention, handsome looking thing from BMW, moving smoothly on from the Bangle debarcle.

[caraddict]

MarJay said:

I want an M4.

I'm hoping that this re-badging will mean an M3 Touring also. That would be such a perfect high performance family car. Been waiting for that for ages... Although they dropped the M5 F11 Touring because the M5 E61 Touring sales were something like 5-10% of the total sale... Then again, they do make a manual M5 (for the U.S.) and don't sell a lot of those neither so the "few sales" argument is rather weak IMO...

Bring on the monster Tourings!

[robinessex]

How long before we get to the M10 then! Oh bugger, we've already got there. Now to fill the gaps in then. M2, M8 and M9 to go.

[crofty1984]

Stupid wheels aside, I really like that. Not a fan of any BMW from the last 10 years but I have to say I'm impressed!

[Chris Y]

Yet another BMW. Who needs it?

[ducnick]

Please build it and pop a 4L bog standard V8 and auto box in it.
Looks a bit like a Jag XF from the side with those vents.

[BorkFactor]

That looks lovely! Some sensible alloys and it would be even better.

Yes, if they do a straight 6 petrol with a manual box I will buy one. In a few years, of course

Love the headlining, and that brown leather looks lovely.

[J-P]

kambites said:

J-P said:

kambites said:

Big improvement over the old one in terms of looks.

Not keen on the idea of 8cm wider than the E92 though - that felt uncomfortably wide to me.

It isn't 8cm wider than an E92 - that would be perverse! However it is wider (around 4cm), which is still annoying - I'd have preferred a narrower car for our narrow roads, having said that the wider track is likely to have a positive effect on handling and it's still not too wide to enjoy on the road (like an Aventador would be for example).

The PH article says 8cm wider rear track; surely that's the widest point on the car except for the wing mirrors, isn't it?

Yes but all that means is that the rear track is 8cm wider than the E92's rear track not width of the actual car. See dimensions below:

Dimensions	4 Series Coupe Concept (F32)	3 Series Coupe (E92)
Length	182.7 in (4,641 mm)	181.1 in (4,588 mm)
Width	71.8 in (1,826 mm)	70.2 in (1,782 mm)
Height	53.6 in (1,362 mm)	54.9 in (1,395 mm)
Wheelbase	110.6 (2,810 mm)	108.7 (2,760 mm)
Front Track	60.8 in (1,545 mm)	59.1 in (1,500 mm)
Rear track	62.7 in (1,593 mm)	59.6 in (1,513 mm)

ETA - improved table formatting
ETA - widest part of the car will still be the body, not the track with door mirrors obviously increasing that width further, (sorry missed your comment on widest part of the car in my previous replies).

Edited by J-P on Thursday 6th December 13:12

Edited by J-P on Thursday 6th December 13:23

[thepony]

Beautiful BMW. Shame to lose the name of the 3 Series Coupe lineage.

I hope they serious think about the M3 name as is so iconic and reverred and do not do anything stupid.

Maybe they should drop the M3 name call the new one the 'M4'. Then the M3 will always be reverred as high- revving naturally aspirated RWD; LSD M 2- door saloons or Coupes of years gone by ....

So not building any M3 saloons or M3 Tourings .... Highly unlikely though

Edited by thepony on Thursday 6th December 13:12

[FWDRacer]

Faeces suede brown headlining.
... and the dubious wood.

Edited by FWDRacer on Thursday 6th December 13:12

[lewisf182]

That is utterly gorgeous. Really really want a hot version of one of these!

[TaylotS2K]

Looks like most other BMWs. Nothing to get too excited about here.

[Rude]

Like this. Woul like it more if I hadn't had to buy a 3 coupe (OK, so a 335d isn't that much of a hardship!!!) due to an unfortunate coming together with a lamp post a few months ago...I could have made my E46 last another year, then this.

Not sure the badging is an issue. Most 3's I see are de-badged anyway!

My tuppence

[MadKipper]

Nice rear, odd skirt, look at the front OH NO! NOT ANOTHER STICK ON NOSE!
Like seeing a good looking woman to be instantly turned off for life by her lighting up a cigarette.
Too big, too heavy, too many turbos, no feelsome steering, no LSD, a hateful electronic hand brake, no LED headlamps and stupid cheap stick-on nose - how hard is it to include the grill as a one-piece bonnet?
I despair at the direction BMW are going. They've lost me.
It's probably partly the EU's fault on stupid pedestrian safety and emissions law.
Moan over.

[garypotter]

GranCab said:

But seriously ... it's the best looking BMW since the E46 M3

Sorry since the E36 M3, the E46 IMHO was ok looking car but the M3 was not wild enough to honour wearing the badge.