RE: New Octavia vRS photos leaked

[farrendahl]

trashbat said:

Not particularly about the vRS, but I'm surprised how cheap Octavias are compared to say the Kia Optima and VW Passat. Does discounting or equipment premiums bring those cars closer in reality?

You have to remember that technically the Octavia comes in the class below the Optima and Passat as is supposed to be seen as a Focus/Astra competitor...although I guess the new Rapide may now occupy that space pushing the Octavia up a class

[loveice]

Broken said:

loveice said:

Do Merc/Audi/BMW have counterparts for this car? I don't think so.

Octavia has always been a C Segment 4-door saloon (or 5-door estate). Merc/Audi/BMW have C-Segment hatches/ cabs/coupes, but no saloons.

The nearest thing to Octavia from Germany is VW's Jetta/Bora which is the same car with different skin.

The Octavia is and always has been a 5 door hatch back or 5 door estate car. The origional is based on the bora of the time which was a 4 door saloon. Merc/Audi/BMW have saloons not hatches in this sector.

My mistake for saying 4-door saloon. Octavia has always been a 5-door three-box saloon looking thing. But it's certainly not hatch back as we know. Since when Mer/Audi/BMW have saloons in C-Segment?

Merc: the latest A and B Classes are all two-box hatch backs.
Audi: A3, Q3 and TT are either two-box hatch backs or coupe/cab.
BMW: 1-Series are either two-box hatches or coupe/cab.

[Roono]

Olivera said:

The BAM engines (S3, Cupra R) also come with twin intercoolers, rather than one on the vRS, forged internals, and a larger turbo (K04 vs K03 on the vRS). Stating "all VAG 1.8t engines are the same apart from boost pressure" is one of the most frequently used incorrect statements on PH.

Octy Mk1 vRS uses K03S. Golf GTi 150BHP uses K03. I believe it was found that SKODA use the K03S on their 150 BHP 1.8T models also (I guess cheaper in the long run to buy more of the same?).

So a boggo SKODA 150BHP should chip 'better' than a Golf 150BHP?

[ecs0set]

SpudLink said:

BorkFactor said:

Surely a publicity stunt of some sort? If not that is quite a mistake!

Small screw up in the software release process. Happens often, but sometimes the mistake is more high profile than others.

Nah, you'd need some screwed up software design to be speccing a Fabia and "accidentally" get a picture of the next model of Octavia RS. Publicity stunt if you ask me.

[deltashad]

Similar to the outgoing model

[GranCab]

Fastest Taxi in town ?

[Esseesse]

deltashad said:

Similar to the outgoing model

The outgoing model looks like a facelift of the new one.

[Hellbound]

I think this speculative render (Skoda Tudor based on new Octavia) is too ruddy Audi/VAG for my eyes. It's like the purest essence of VAG in coupe form.

[p0d]

Just me who thought the rear was:





Bit more angular.

[Crafty_]

Doesn't look drastically different from the outgoing model though, does it ?
Squared off the headlights, different bumpers, moved the rubbing strip to the bottom of the door.

[Amirhussain]

p0d said:

Just me who thought the rear was:





Bit more angular.

Nope, I thought the same too. Best looking one was the first model

[Broken]

Olivera said:

The BAM engines (S3, Cupra R) also come with twin intercoolers, rather than one on the vRS, forged internals, and a larger turbo (K04 vs K03 on the vRS). Stating "all VAG 1.8t engines are the same apart from boost pressure" is one of the most frequently used incorrect statements on PH.

I said basic engine, which I stand by. The detail changes to components etc are what make the different variants.

My mk1 octy vRS has the standard turbo fitted and it is a K04 turbo. Only ther very early vRS had a K03 turbo fitted, it is normally used on the 150bHP variantes of the engine.

I know lots of people assume that all VAG 1.8 20V turbo engines are the same apart from power output, one of many misconceptions on here about various things.

[Hitch78]

I think it looks good - the estate is definately on my list.

[davepoth]

I said this about the Rapid too - Skoda are making some seriously stylish cars right now. They don't have big swoopy slashes or massive hockeystick light clusters, but who actually likes those?

In five years' time when design has moved on this is still going to look good, but many of its competitors will look ridiculous.

[Crafty_]

davepoth said:

In five years' time when design has moved on this is still going to look good, but many of its competitors will look ridiculous.

Not sure about that, it isn't not remarkably different to a Passat/A4/Insignia/Kia etc is it ?

[Hitch78]

I saw a VW Jetta this morning - this car is just one of those with a facelift and a different door set up. The bonnet line is exactly the same.

[masermartin]

I wonder how many dead bodies you can get in the boot of this one... the Mk 1 has a gigantic boot.

[masermartin]

Hitch78 said:

I saw a VW Jetta this morning - this car is just one of those with a facelift and a different door set up. The bonnet line is exactly the same.

What's the performance verson of the new Jetta called?

[Crafty_]

There isn't one, 1.4 petrol, 1.6 or 2.0 diesel.

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/jetta-vi/which-m...

[Hitch78]

Oh yes there is; the GLI which is essentially a Golf GTI with a boot. Not available in the UK but then we don't all live in the UK.