RE: Spotted: Renault Laguna Sport GT
Discussion
Glad to see this get a reasonable reception on here! There was concern in the office when I hit publish! It's a quirky car for sure and, as the sales figures supplied by Renault reveal, a rare one too. Especially those petrols. Breakdown as follows:
GT 205 Turbo - 50 Hatch, 24 Sport Tourer
GT dCi 180 - 287 Hatch, 345 Sport Tourer
Total 706
Cheers,
Dan
GT 205 Turbo - 50 Hatch, 24 Sport Tourer
GT dCi 180 - 287 Hatch, 345 Sport Tourer
Total 706
Cheers,
Dan
Spotted a coupe version the other day as well and agree that it is a good looking car, but (not having a go at these in particular) a friend recently had a megane with a dodgy electric window and there are a couple others mentioning them here; why are these breaking on recent cars?
Things like diesel injectors, turbos, shouldn't break, but these are getting pushed for efficiency so you can kinda understand some of this stuff breaking. Electric windows surely should be proven and utterly reliable by now...
Things like diesel injectors, turbos, shouldn't break, but these are getting pushed for efficiency so you can kinda understand some of this stuff breaking. Electric windows surely should be proven and utterly reliable by now...
A lady in my office also had her Laguna snap a fueltank strap and lose its petrol all over the motorway, so the chap who said that is not alone in this regard.
£8k for this? The other front page story about checking out £10k Porsche 996s comes to mind, where some PHers are showing pics of their £8k 911 purchases... having seen a mate run his Scenic I believe the running costs are comparable between a Laguna and one!
£8k for this? The other front page story about checking out £10k Porsche 996s comes to mind, where some PHers are showing pics of their £8k 911 purchases... having seen a mate run his Scenic I believe the running costs are comparable between a Laguna and one!
dukebox9reg said:
mat205125 said:
Similar story here .... usually from owners of 320d BMWs who should think about stocking a spare turbo in the garage "just in case", from Ford owners sh!tting dual mass flywheels all over the carriageways, or from drivers of VAGs finest who enjoy replacing plastic clutch cylinders and air mass meters every other service.
Dont forget VAG DMF's/turbo's/injectors.All of the stereotypical failure modes of other manufacturers are of course as potentially unjustified as the criticisms often made of cars of any other brand or country of origin
andburg said:
economy is the major downside, forget the claimed mpg, i got 38.1 almost constantly and never got about 45mpg not even on a motorway run.
Figures like that make me love our old(ish) BMWs even more. The E36 328i does 35mpg on 95 octane and 37+ on V-power/equivalent on the motorway. The E46 330d returns 43-46 MPG. I think for what they are, both represent a fantastic blend of flexible power and good consumption... As far as this Renault goes... well, I'd consider a coupé but all the tales of turbos going mental are a bit alarming!
I bought mine 12 months ago as it was the newest, lowest mileage, best equipped car I could get for £10k (£26k new). Poor residuals work both ways!
Like others have said, its more interesting than a boring VAG product, and the handling is impressive. The 4WS takes some getting used to at first though.
I've put 30,000 miles on it since and the only thing to go wrong was an inlet pipe came loose. Easily sorted.
I'm doing 600 miles p/w again now, so this will probably get run into the ground.
Like others have said, its more interesting than a boring VAG product, and the handling is impressive. The 4WS takes some getting used to at first though.
I've put 30,000 miles on it since and the only thing to go wrong was an inlet pipe came loose. Easily sorted.
I'm doing 600 miles p/w again now, so this will probably get run into the ground.
HTP99 said:
vsonix said:
As far as this Renault goes... well, I'd consider a coupé but all the tales of turbos going mental are a bit alarming!
The turbo issues are on the 1.9 dCi which is in Laguna II. ...however, it's the sort of thing that would put me off buying subsequent models anyway unless there was plenty of long-term anecdotal evidence to prove things had changed...
I love the active drive!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSPsMlHu02Y
Shame it's by the car maker least trusted to get such an excellent but complicated dynamic system idea right!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSPsMlHu02Y
Shame it's by the car maker least trusted to get such an excellent but complicated dynamic system idea right!?
MoelyCrio said:
I bought mine 12 months ago as it was the newest, lowest mileage, best equipped car I could get for £10k (£26k new). Poor residuals work both ways!
Like others have said, its more interesting than a boring VAG product, and the handling is impressive. The 4WS takes some getting used to at first though.
I've put 30,000 miles on it since and the only thing to go wrong was an inlet pipe came loose. Easily sorted.
I'm doing 600 miles p/w again now, so this will probably get run into the ground.
I love Laguna Coupe's, they are fanatic looking and very well made, V6 dCi would be the one for me. Like others have said, its more interesting than a boring VAG product, and the handling is impressive. The 4WS takes some getting used to at first though.
I've put 30,000 miles on it since and the only thing to go wrong was an inlet pipe came loose. Easily sorted.
I'm doing 600 miles p/w again now, so this will probably get run into the ground.
How do you find the ride, the reason I ask is that every single demo I did in one the main complaint was the jiggly ride?
Dan Trent said:
Glad to see this get a reasonable reception on here! There was concern in the office when I hit publish! It's a quirky car for sure and, as the sales figures supplied by Renault reveal, a rare one too. Especially those petrols. Breakdown as follows:
GT 205 Turbo - 50 Hatch, 24 Sport Tourer
GT dCi 180 - 287 Hatch, 345 Sport Tourer
Total 706
Cheers,
Dan
GT V6 TDi: 46GT 205 Turbo - 50 Hatch, 24 Sport Tourer
GT dCi 180 - 287 Hatch, 345 Sport Tourer
Total 706
Cheers,
Dan
Wait a few years for prices to dip further... and to see if Renault really have improved their reliability... and I think that'd be the one to sink money into. Nice idea.
I'll just add that i have the Sport Tourer version
Comfy and surprisingly well built. The Mrs has a 05 Scenic (which has been faultless) but they are poles apart in terms of quality.
Mine's an oil burner, so just need to organise a remap now!
Comfy and surprisingly well built. The Mrs has a 05 Scenic (which has been faultless) but they are poles apart in terms of quality.
Mine's an oil burner, so just need to organise a remap now!
Edited by littlebasher on Friday 4th January 00:52
I'm in the once owned never again camp too. My family had plenty of Renaults in the past, going back to 16s, 12s etc, even a Fuego so I had no problem with trying a Laguna diesel. I still maintain it was the most comfortable car I've owned but also the worst by some way - the usual long list of electrical and mechanical failures meant I only kept it for 6 months, the 406 I replaced it with gave many years trouble free service.
The final straw for me was the alternator belt snapping on the day I was supposed to be driving the car away for a week's holiday - the AA man commented how lucky I'd been as he'd seen plenty of them do the same and normally they take the cambelt with it too. He dragged the sorry thing off to the local Renault dealer who, despite the apparent need to stock the belt, didn't have one. How lucky indeed, I thought to myself when I picked it up two days later with a bill nearing £400. The general sense of discontent I picked up from other p*ssed off Renault owners in the service department was something to behold too, I have never set foot in a Renault dealership since and will need quite a bit of convincing/coercion/medication etc. before I do so again
The final straw for me was the alternator belt snapping on the day I was supposed to be driving the car away for a week's holiday - the AA man commented how lucky I'd been as he'd seen plenty of them do the same and normally they take the cambelt with it too. He dragged the sorry thing off to the local Renault dealer who, despite the apparent need to stock the belt, didn't have one. How lucky indeed, I thought to myself when I picked it up two days later with a bill nearing £400. The general sense of discontent I picked up from other p*ssed off Renault owners in the service department was something to behold too, I have never set foot in a Renault dealership since and will need quite a bit of convincing/coercion/medication etc. before I do so again
Made me laugh at the F4RT engine type. The F4R petrol engine was used in the Renaultsport Clios and are a superb engine. I own a 172 thats done 130,000 miles and goes like a rocket! Yes its had a few little niggles but generally its been a brilliant car. I've owned French cars for the past 30 years and every one of them has been good except a Citroen xsara I had for 6 months and hated. The Laguna are an under-rated car a bit like the C5's which replaced the Xantia. Buy a good one and it will give years of enjoyment.
Looks: its ugly and its under wheeled. Glasgow and Strathclyde has some of the worst scarred roads in the UK and I've never found them too harsh, only exception is when you head east and have to cross the Forth Bridge's expansion joints. Car enthusiasts have been putting larger wheels on their cars for years, blame ze germans all you want, even if it is almost Top Gear level predictable journalism.
Reliability: unproven I would say and plenty of horror stories doing the rounds. Yes, VAG/BMW/Ford all have their foibles, they also sell a lot more cars for stories of their's to circulate.
Ecconomy: whole point of these is munching miles surely? Make it handle well for twisties if you want but the fundamental purpose of such cars is gobbling up motorways. 43odd mpg combined, from a diesel? Shocking.
Reliability: unproven I would say and plenty of horror stories doing the rounds. Yes, VAG/BMW/Ford all have their foibles, they also sell a lot more cars for stories of their's to circulate.
Ecconomy: whole point of these is munching miles surely? Make it handle well for twisties if you want but the fundamental purpose of such cars is gobbling up motorways. 43odd mpg combined, from a diesel? Shocking.
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