RE: Time For Tea? GT3 and Turbo test at the 'ring

[Martian O]

Kong said:

Anyone else think the new Turbo has a whiff of the 9FF about it?

That's the GT3!

[drpep]

SonnyM said:

The 991 GT3 will be the best performing 911 in history. For all those that are stuck in the past PH has blessed you with the Classifieds section.

Time for tea.

Hahaha - too true.

[Sierra Mike]

Dr S said:

When the first hints about the 997 GT3 came out at the time I could not wait to get my hands on it. The 991 GT3 leaves me pretty cold. Frightening...

Same here.

[Martian O]

Sierra Mike said:

Dr S said:

When the first hints about the 997 GT3 came out at the time I could not wait to get my hands on it. The 991 GT3 leaves me pretty cold. Frightening...

Same here.

I don't think the GT3 will be in as much demand as previous incarnations if it's PDK only. Maybe a manual gearbox will be available as a cost option!

[Mermaid]

Martian O said:

I don't think the GT3 will be in as much demand as previous incarnations if it's PDK only. Maybe a manual gearbox will be available as a cost option!

Also there is a limited market for this type of car - the various versions of the 6GT3 & 7GT3 have saturated the market. I doubt more than a couple of hundred of these cars will come to the UK.

[PascalBuyens]

Porkie said:

Kong said:

Anyone else think the new Turbo has a whiff of the 9FF about it?

Thats not the new Turbo mate

I had to look twice to before seeing the differences between the cars.

Which means it's like all the time... just another Porsche, nothing to see, move on

[Gary C]

bobo said:

pdk ... an easy way to get a car to go quicker....

And there is your answer, easy.

I dont want easy. I accept the PDK is an amazing bit of engineering, but its not as rewarding.

A good manual needs effort by the driver to work well, and boy does it feel good when you get it right.

My G50 is not even the best gearbox or even the best G50, but on a fun road, with a bit of heel and toe it FEELS good.

[Gary C]

GroundEffect said:

The GT3 didn't even exist when Ferdinand was around...what? Ferdinand wouldn't have cared what transmission it had as long as it functioned well.

And I bet it does. No one screams bloody-murder at a Ferrari 458 or 430 Scuderia having a double-clutch box...

Some did.

[Gary C]

Dusty964 said:

Technology enables the user to get more from the product.

And put less in.

[Dusty964]

Gary C said:

Dusty964 said:

Technology enables the user to get more from the product.

And put less in.

Of course. It's the basis for the racing car. For endurance racing, you want it to be as easy as possible for the driver surely? Less fatigue, no missed gears, no over revved engine.

[Gary C]

Dusty964 said:

Gary C said:

Dusty964 said:

Technology enables the user to get more from the product.

And put less in.

Of course. It's the basis for the racing car. For endurance racing, you want it to be as easy as possible for the driver surely? Less fatigue, no missed gears, no over revved engine.

I don't believe the racing sequential box cup car has anything to do with the PDK.

It even has a clutch pedal !

Edited by Gary C on Monday 14th January 18:33

[Dusty964]

I don't believe it does either.
The fact of the matter is that the manual has had its day, and it's replacement is being ushered in.
The reference to the pdk was that Porsche started fitting it in racing cars in 86. The Audi marketing guys have had their time with it, it's now being fitted in more and more models.
Like it or lump it, they will be around for a while yet! Worse news perhaps is the continual need to have more gears to choose from. 7 forward gears in a manual box? Awful. Paddles- no missed gears, faster changes.
Progression. Get used to it, or as an excellent alternative, for the same cash as a new .gt3 that no one will be buying because of its gearbox,you will have a fairly amazing choice of old, analogue 911s if that is really what you crave, or a previous model .gt3.

[Gary C]

Dusty964 said:

amazing choice of old, analogue 911s if that is really what you crave, or a previous model .gt3.

Yep, already have one

All the proponents of the PDF don't answer the fundamental question though. Advocates of manual boxes understand the PDF is quicker.

Edited by Gary C on Monday 14th January 19:27

[Dusty964]

What is the fundamental question?

[Gary C]

Dusty964 said:

What is the fundamental question?

About why some people prefer a manual.