Another cyclist rant/moan

Another cyclist rant/moan

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okgo

38,076 posts

199 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Two a breast is what the highway code recommends. He was a complete tool, no need for it at all.


saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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okgo said:
Two a breast is what the highway code recommends.
When does it recommend it?

okgo

38,076 posts

199 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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saaby93 said:
When does it recommend it?
Well wrong word, but says not more than 2 abreast unless on busy roads (which it isn't)

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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m0isty said:
No, but the rider (the bicycle's engine) emits carbon dioxide from one end and filthy air/methane/st particles from the other.
so a tax on breathing on farting? Most of that emission is going to happen anyway wink

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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okgo said:
saaby93 said:
When does it recommend it?
Well wrong word, but says not more than 2 abreast unless on busy roads (which it isn't)
Its the other way around.
Cyclists are allowed to ride two abreast but that doesnt mean cyclists should do it when its not useful to other road users
Otherwise we could invoke other rules. As pedestrians we're allowed to walk anwhere in the road but due care for other road users means it's beneficial to keep to one side
HC66 said:
You should
never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially sighted pedestrians
HC68 said:
You MUST NOT
ride in a dangerous, careless or inconsiderate manner
Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 13th January 19:11

matt-ITR

892 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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saaby93 said:
okgo said:
Two a breast is what the highway code recommends.
When does it recommend it?
From the highway code:

"You should never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends"

I constantly meet drivers who do not know this and think that riding 2 a breast is not allowed at all.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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famfarrow said:
Willy Nilly said:
The "tax" we pay as car owners is a duty on emissions. A bicycle has no such emission so pays no duty (tax).

OP, don't park on double yellow lines blocking the road/pavement/cycle path and your car won't get damaged. 2 wrongs don't make a right and all that lot, but it does wind people up. Maybe you should have posted this in the bad parking thread?
I understand and accept I was parked on the yellow's by way of explanation as we can see in the photos heading up the lane there is no indication that there is a cycle lane where I parked. I imagine quite a lot of us have at one point or another parked on a double yellow briefly for various reasons. Of course, I should not have parked there but some signage would aid the situation.

It is a poor place for a cycle lane, alongside a series of houses with driveways and no clear indication a cycleway flowing against traffic on their doorstep. Some Red tarmac or at least a demarcated cycle lane would aid in this.

Being 'wound up' in no way justifies criminal damage.
If I were a more aggressive character this could have escalated. I was silly enough to park briefly on double yellows, this in no way warrants a tt vandalising my car when he believes no one is looking for a very minor slight to his day.
I've never parked on the right hand side of a one way street to get out, cross the road and talk to someone. Why did you park there? Because you though you'd be 'out of the way'? What did you think the channel through the island was for, or did you not even see it?

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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matt-ITR said:
I constantly meet drivers who do not know this and think that riding 2 a breast is not allowed at all.
As said above it is allowed but (like everything else on the road?) subject to being 'considerate'

matt-ITR

892 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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saaby93 said:
matt-ITR said:
I constantly meet drivers who do not know this and think that riding 2 a breast is not allowed at all.
As said above it is allowed but like everything else on the road, subject to being 'considerate'
Completely agree. If I am out in a group and hear or notice a car behind I'll always make space for the vehicle to pass.
I am sure the vast majority of other cyclists are the same.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

146 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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saaby93 said:
matt-ITR said:
I constantly meet drivers who do not know this and think that riding 2 a breast is not allowed at all.
As said above it is allowed but (like everything else on the road?) subject to being 'considerate'
Having spent many a Sunday morning driving the lanes/roads etc near Dorking and up to box hill I've found that A LOT of the cyclists will constantly ride 2 abreast with no regard for the road, cars behind them etc. on occasion I've seen 3 and 4 abreast almost in a peloton. 7 cars all waiting to go past, did they break or split down to 2 abreast....did they hell.

Maybe the Highway Code needs to be clarified to all club members before they head out with a "I command the road attitude"

Sorry to be pedantic but OP never specified whether he was loading and therefore entitled to stop on the double yellows.

I see the usual antagonist mob have waded in and of course there are 2 sides to every story but damaging someone's property because they are causing you to have to cycle round them and increase your total travel by circa 5 metres is buffonary of the highest order.

cuprabob

14,671 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I just can't believe you stood by and let someone damage your car.

At leat you could have got the phone out and took a video.

rohrl

8,740 posts

146 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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BOR said:
tHEY ON YOUR ROADS. rOADS YOU PAID FOR. wITH YOUR ROAD TAX. aND THEY ARE RIDE TWO-ABREAST. yOU CANT GET PAST THEM. tHEY ARE NOT HAVE INSURANCE. tHEY ARE NOT STOPPING RED LIGHTS NOT LIKE THE CAR. tHEY fk YOUR WIFE. tHEY ON TELLY ALL THE TIME.

bAD

car crazy

1,796 posts

164 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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VinceFox said:
famfarrow said:
Willy Nilly said:
The "tax" we pay as car owners is a duty on emissions. A bicycle has no such emission so pays no duty (tax).

OP, don't park on double yellow lines blocking the road/pavement/cycle path and your car won't get damaged. 2 wrongs don't make a right and all that lot, but it does wind people up. Maybe you should have posted this in the bad parking thread?
I understand and accept I was parked on the yellow's by way of explanation as we can see in the photos heading up the lane there is no indication that there is a cycle lane where I parked. I imagine quite a lot of us have at one point or another parked on a double yellow briefly for various reasons. Of course, I should not have parked there but some signage would aid the situation.

It is a poor place for a cycle lane, alongside a series of houses with driveways and no clear indication a cycleway flowing against traffic on their doorstep. Some Red tarmac or at least a demarcated cycle lane would aid in this.

Being 'wound up' in no way justifies criminal damage.
If I were a more aggressive character this could have escalated. I was silly enough to park briefly on double yellows, this in no way warrants a tt vandalising my car when he believes no one is looking for a very minor slight to his day.
Spot on. Ignore this bunch of plant wearing leaf huggers, let's go throw stones at ducks.
Exactly, what these tree hugging woofters are doing on a motoring website is beyond me

Steve vRS

4,848 posts

242 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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car crazy said:
Exactly, what these tree hugging woofters are doing on a motoring website is beyond me
Becasuse we like cars and we like bikes.

I like films and beer as well biggrin

Steve

TheFungle

4,076 posts

207 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Steve vRS said:
car crazy said:
Exactly, what these tree hugging woofters are doing on a motoring website is beyond me
Becasuse we like cars and we like bikes.

I like films and beer as well biggrin

Steve
And girls.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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You guys, especially the OP all need to chill out a bit for heavens sake. I mean a tiny, almost invisible scratch to your front bumper and you come on here trying to stir up a frenzy. Please grow up!

I'm a keen cyclist, but I'm also a petrolhead with a passion for fast cars and driving quickly. Often these passions combine when I take my MTB for a spin to the Lakes, Wales or similar where the winding roads to get there also happen to be part of the fun day out.

I really can't understand the small minded attitude shown towards cyclists by a stupid minority on this site. Yes some cyclists are idiots but so what. There are idiots in all walks of life but we don't come on here ranting and raving do we?

I've never had a problem with cyclists, in fact the more cyclists on the road, the less cars, so that means that if I'm driving then I can get to my destination quicker. In 20 years of driving I've never had a problem being held up by cyclists. Sure, you may have to wait behind one for a minute or so until there's a safe place to pass but so what? It's all part of life on the road. There are other things that hold me up too, caravans, traffic lights, roadworks, tractors etc. If you can't deal with these things in a safe and rational manner then you either need to go on an anger management course or perhaps consider giving up driving for the sake and safety of all of us.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Andy20vt said:
If you can't deal with these things in a safe and rational manner then you either need to go on an anger management course or perhaps consider giving up driving for the sake and safety of all of us.
Agreed - the OP did consider thing rationally and avoided getting involved. From the account the cyclist got very angry

0836whimper

975 posts

199 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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car crazy said:
Exactly, what these tree hugging woofters are doing on a motoring website is beyond me
- Cyclists are all Tree hugging woofters
- The concept of anyone liking more than one thing at a time

I imagine the list of things beyond you is not short.

Hudson

1,857 posts

188 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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At least he wasn't riding a horse...

*runs*

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Hudson said:
At least he wasn't riding a horse...

*runs*
And giving him the finger! yes

Ooh err.