Citroen C2 Head Gone Twice

Citroen C2 Head Gone Twice

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FMondays

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4 posts

136 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Hello Forum!

First time poster here so please be gentle.

The wife's C2 Head Gasket went about 7 weeks ago. She paid £600 to have it re-skimmed and sorted.

Now the car is leaking oil again, she has taken it back to the garage to be told the head has gone again. They will fix it under warranty (No cost) but for it to have gone again so soon there is something seriously wrong with the car and to get rid. (They haven't said WHAT is wrong) They will not fix it again under warranty.

I'm no car expert but this sounds a bit dodgy to me. Only thing I could think of was the block is warped not the head and they haven't noticed when they did it the first time.

I have told her to pay to have a quality gasket put on & to get them to check the block.

Anyone have any advice?

J4CKO

41,623 posts

201 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Engines for these are cheap, I would source one and get it fitted, not worth repairing it again, £300 plus a couple of hundred to get it put in.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=citroen+c2+e...

nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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If they will fix it for free, as its under warranty then do that.
Then drive it to a dealer and PX it for something thats not French wink

FMondays

Original Poster:

4 posts

136 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Just to add to this the car is a 55 plate and has only done 40,000

I think getting rid is the most likely solution.

Just so frustrating that she has paid nearly 12k for the dam thing (Finance etc) and its knackered after 40k!

Meths

1,902 posts

137 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Why did they skim it? Did it overheat? Did you drive it whilst overheating until it wouldn't go any further? Is it leaking oil from between the block and head? Is there a mayo substance in the coolant or oil?

They should have checked the head for warpage and if (and only if) the head is warped should it be skimmed.

If the head gasket failure is caused by over-heating, action must be taken to rectify the cause of over-heating (eg, failed water pump)

The head may also have been skimmed too far, thus increasing the compression ratio which blows the head gasket.

Hope this helps smile


Btw, it might be an idea to get the work done by a rover specialist, they know what they're doing when it comes to HGF hehe

J4CKO

41,623 posts

201 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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m8rky

2,090 posts

160 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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What engine is it? sounds like a possible distorted block but is quite uncommon unless car has got seriously overheated at sometime or when the headgasket went first time.

FMondays

Original Poster:

4 posts

136 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Meths said:
Why did they skim it? Did it overheat? Did you drive it whilst overheating until it wouldn't go any further?

They should have checked the head for warpage and if (and only if) the head is warped should it be skimmed.

If the head gasket failure is caused by over-heating, action must be taken to rectify the cause of over-heating (eg, failed water pump)

The head may also have been skimmed too far, thus increasing the compression ratio which blows the head gasket.

Hope this helps smile


Btw, it might be an idea to get the work done by a rover specialist, they know what they're doing when it comes to HGF hehe
As far as I know the car wasn't driven when overheating. She noticed a oil leak on the drive & took it to the garage straight away.

I am assuming the head was warped as the garage sent it off to be skimmed so I guess they must have checked it. I can't see why they wouldn't check the block too though?

Its the vagueness of the 'Something is seriously wrong get rid' which has got me worried. If we do keep it & it fails again where do we stand with warranty then? If they don't suggest what to do to remedy this situation apart from do the gasket again.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Unusual to have a failed head gasket and the only symptom is an external oil leak. Quite likely nothing to do with the head gasket and you are dealing with a bunch of incompetent fkwits (i.e. 90% of car dealers). I'd get a second opinion from an independent garage, preferably one with a good local reputation.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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They wouldn't check the block because that involves removing it from the car and taking it to the same place that skimmed the head.

FMondays

Original Poster:

4 posts

136 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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EDLT said:
They wouldn't check the block because that involves removing it from the car and taking it to the same place that skimmed the head.
Thanks bud, I wouldn't have known that (Car novice)

So it looks like letting them fix it again & we will likely be in the same situation a month or so down the line again.

I will have to go & ask them some questions to try & get to the bottom of it. At least they are offering to do the work again for free.

Meths

1,902 posts

137 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Get it fixed again and then get rid of the car laugh