£700 delivery charge for new car! Is this normal?
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Just spec'd up a very nice M3 via main dealer as a treat for working hard the past few years, never owned a new car. Got the paper work through; the VED is £1030 which fair enough it's s
t but you can't do anything about. Then noticed a £700 delivery charge. What the fk. Where is it getting delivered from ...Dubai, business class.
It's going to have to go to the dealer to be sold anyway so seems a bit st that I'm paying for it. Is this something that you can barter out of or pick it up from the docks? I know I'm paying a lot of money anyway and it's a fraction of the total cost but just seems a bit of a st way for them to make some more coin.
t but you can't do anything about. Then noticed a £700 delivery charge. What the fk. Where is it getting delivered from ...Dubai, business class. It's going to have to go to the dealer to be sold anyway so seems a bit s
t that I'm paying for it. Is this something that you can barter out of or pick it up from the docks? I know I'm paying a lot of money anyway and it's a fraction of the total cost but just seems a bit of a st way for them to make some more coin.Delivery charges always used to be itemised separately because they were not subject to car tax. Car tax was abolished and now manufacturers generally quote on the road prices, but there is typically an element for 'delivery' in any price.
At the end of the day, the car is either worth what you're being asked to pay, or it's not.
In this market I'd either lease a C63 for £500 a month or get a nearly new M3 for £43k. This is still £7k cheaper than a base spec, new one from Broadspeed and £12k+ off list:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details...
At the end of the day, the car is either worth what you're being asked to pay, or it's not.
In this market I'd either lease a C63 for £500 a month or get a nearly new M3 for £43k. This is still £7k cheaper than a base spec, new one from Broadspeed and £12k+ off list:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details...
E30M3SE said:
BMW don't offer 'factory collection', not for the UK in any case, it is currently only offered to
"Germany, USA, Canada, Austria, France, Spain, Belgium and Italy. Other countries will follow."
From here
All manufacturers have a 'delivery' charge.
Nice of them to give you 20 litres of fuel after you've forked out however much...."Germany, USA, Canada, Austria, France, Spain, Belgium and Italy. Other countries will follow."
From here
All manufacturers have a 'delivery' charge.
k-ink said:
OT: "£500 for a C63" sounds good!
Slightly more at the moment, but not crazily so:http://www.freedomcontracts.com/viewdeal.asp?ID=11...
£3,400 down and £528 a month.
£16k for 2 years and hand it back; but to put it another way, probably cheaper than buying with cash and then trading in over that period.
Would that be £700 x 10(ish) for a transporter load? Or would it be coming over on its own? Sounds a lot to me.
EDIT: Appranatly BMW and Mini UK sold 166000 new cars in 2011, assuming they charged everyone the same (£700) that's £116,200,000.00 in delivery charges!
EDIT: Appranatly BMW and Mini UK sold 166000 new cars in 2011, assuming they charged everyone the same (£700) that's £116,200,000.00 in delivery charges!
Edited by Type R Tom on Monday 4th February 21:56
E30M3SE said:
BMW don't offer 'factory collection', not for the UK in any case, it is currently only offered to
"Germany, USA, Canada, Austria, France, Spain, Belgium and Italy. Other countries will follow."
From here
All manufacturers have a 'delivery' charge.
So much for the EU common market! "Germany, USA, Canada, Austria, France, Spain, Belgium and Italy. Other countries will follow."
From here
All manufacturers have a 'delivery' charge.
It's to do with this local £700 charge?
Wild Swordfish said:
At Honda, our delivery chargers are £600
What makes it worst it my dealership is only a 20 mile drive from the Swindon factory.
Christ! Wouldn't want to be trying to sell cars at your dealership, I bet a few customers have wobbled when they saw that stacked in the deal, or do you give free metallic paint to offset it? What makes it worst it my dealership is only a 20 mile drive from the Swindon factory.
Renault cars and Kangoo vans are £595, Masters and Trafic's are £605, if you look at the OTR price in the brochure t's all included in there however when an order is written out all the figures are broken down and the delivery charge is shown as a separate charge, the odd person thinks we are adding it in the the total price however once explained and sometimes a bit of calculator work is done in front of the customer to prove we aren't slipping it in on the sly they are happy.
Think about it though its not just a charge to us from the docks, the car is moved from the factory in Europe to the docks in France, then put on a ferry to Southampton then transportered to the dealership.
Probably 8 years ago Renault pricing just included the delivery charge, ie you had a "basic" price ex VAT, a "basic" price including VAT and an OTR price which included RFL and 1st reg fee, to appear more competitive in price the "basic" price including VAT changed to excluding delivery, delivery was then included in the OTR price as well as RFL and 1st reg fee.
Think about it though its not just a charge to us from the docks, the car is moved from the factory in Europe to the docks in France, then put on a ferry to Southampton then transportered to the dealership.
Probably 8 years ago Renault pricing just included the delivery charge, ie you had a "basic" price ex VAT, a "basic" price including VAT and an OTR price which included RFL and 1st reg fee, to appear more competitive in price the "basic" price including VAT changed to excluding delivery, delivery was then included in the OTR price as well as RFL and 1st reg fee.
Do all car manufactures add on a delivery charge? If an average of say £500 is charged per new car, there were over 2 million new cars registered last year that equates to over £1 billion in deliver charges.
A nice little earner I would say!
A nice little earner I would say!
Edited by Type R Tom on Tuesday 5th February 07:34
surveyor said:
Do BMW do the factory collection? At least you get some fun for your money..
DONT go down that route!!! They charge you for factory delivery!!! Porsche e.g. charge €850,- that's for the hotel, the meal at Porsche and the initial service.... from Germany to Germany that is.....
As someone else has mentioned, these days a lot of cars are listed with an OTR price, so you only see it when you look at the breakdown but there are still some manufacturers who quote a separate price for a base car and OTR charges
Most Astons have a quoted list price including OTR charges but when I bought my roadster earlier this year, which was a ltd ed. and therefore not in any 'standard aston sales documentation', they quoted a base price that was a 'round number' and then there were over 2k of additional OTR charges. 1k was 1st yrs tax, there were small charges for 1st registration fee & plates and IIRC c. 50-100 for some anonymous 'on the road' fee (which you might argue covers the tank of fuel, though I suspect that's a dealer cost not factory cost, just as PDI and handover are done by the dealer and 'cost' them out of their margin) but once you broke it down it still left £800 as delivery
Not only are the cars made in the UK which means they are only charged c. £200 +/-£50 by the transporter firm to take from factory to dealership, but I offered to collect it from the factory - the delivery charge would still apply
Bottom line: It's a little like taxation or budget flights - they use lots of excuses for different extras that you effectively can't get out of, to keep the supposed base price low, but it's all spin and other than 1st yr tax and I guess 1st registration fee, which are govt charges subject to change, they should just quote a single price but they don't to try to make headline figures look more palatable
Most Astons have a quoted list price including OTR charges but when I bought my roadster earlier this year, which was a ltd ed. and therefore not in any 'standard aston sales documentation', they quoted a base price that was a 'round number' and then there were over 2k of additional OTR charges. 1k was 1st yrs tax, there were small charges for 1st registration fee & plates and IIRC c. 50-100 for some anonymous 'on the road' fee (which you might argue covers the tank of fuel, though I suspect that's a dealer cost not factory cost, just as PDI and handover are done by the dealer and 'cost' them out of their margin) but once you broke it down it still left £800 as delivery
Not only are the cars made in the UK which means they are only charged c. £200 +/-£50 by the transporter firm to take from factory to dealership, but I offered to collect it from the factory - the delivery charge would still apply
Bottom line: It's a little like taxation or budget flights - they use lots of excuses for different extras that you effectively can't get out of, to keep the supposed base price low, but it's all spin and other than 1st yr tax and I guess 1st registration fee, which are govt charges subject to change, they should just quote a single price but they don't to try to make headline figures look more palatable
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