RE: Driven: Ariel Atom 3.5 supercharged

RE: Driven: Ariel Atom 3.5 supercharged

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skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Varsity said:
Is this the TTS Supercharger kit?
Christ no. Stay away from that company with an Atom is my suggestion. This is a factory spec.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Driller said:
Dammit if this was legal in France it would be my main car.
I have convoyed with loads of French registered Atoms, there is a dealer in France who can help.

Not driven a 3.5 yet but imagine I will soon.

Ben

n4aat

458 posts

212 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Have they fixed the chassis tubing yet though. I believe that it can also become unhinged on occasions.

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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BlackPrince said:
Cracking car. Next time Im in the UK, have promised myself a 300 hire, even at a relatively exorbitant £500 but 6.8secs to 100mph is in no way superbike-troubling (they've been doing mid-5s to 100mph for at least a decade now). Its not even 911 Turbo S troubling! (6.5).
I'm sure you get the point though, 6.8s to 100 is mental for a car. Let's see your superbike stick with the atom on a give and take road wink

TX.

TAHodgson

875 posts

171 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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n4aat said:
Have they fixed the chassis tubing yet though. I believe that it can also become unhinged on occasions.
Be interesting to hear if this is fixed, ours has cracked twice!

grenpayne

1,988 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Genuine question, do these understeer badly due to rearward-based weight distribution? I know it was (briefly) mentioned in the article but does it overwhelm the driving experience or is it a case of adjusting your driving to suit?

356Speedster

2,293 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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grenpayne said:
Genuine question, do these understeer badly due to rearward-based weight distribution? I know it was (briefly) mentioned in the article but does it overwhelm the driving experience or is it a case of adjusting your driving to suit?
When you get the A048s warm, no, not a hint of understeer.... however, on the road, I did struggle to keep heat in them on all but the hottest days / on the "hardest" of drives. Basically, you do just need to work the car to get the grip.

Evo10

30 posts

155 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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If you want a British Hand Built car with one of the best engines ever produced with bullet proof reliability and excellent residual values, with superb factory backup? then look no further than the Atom from Ariel Motors.

DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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EPIC!

I know it shouldn't be my first thought but, 25mpg, surely it'll do way more than that weighing 520kg?

The Jolly Todger

2,742 posts

180 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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The comparison to the 911 midrange in the article is curious, presumably it is much faster than almost all 911s?

grenpayne

1,988 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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356Speedster said:
grenpayne said:
Genuine question, do these understeer badly due to rearward-based weight distribution? I know it was (briefly) mentioned in the article but does it overwhelm the driving experience or is it a case of adjusting your driving to suit?
When you get the A048s warm, no, not a hint of understeer.... however, on the road, I did struggle to keep heat in them on all but the hottest days / on the "hardest" of drives. Basically, you do just need to work the car to get the grip.
Many thanks smile

J4CKO

41,566 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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BlackPrince said:
Cracking car. Next time Im in the UK, have promised myself a 300 hire, even at a relatively exorbitant £500 but 6.8secs to 100mph is in no way superbike-troubling (they've been doing mid-5s to 100mph for at least a decade now). Its not even 911 Turbo S troubling! (6.5).

That being said, if I lived somewhere with roads that were beyond ruler-straight, I'd have one as a second car in a minute. Dont think there is a more pure driving experience, maybe the BAC Mono or Caterham but thats it really
I think it would trouble a superbike, these are balls out acceration figures done by professional drivers, on the move it isnt all acceleration, it is braking and cornering, even when accelerating, if on the bike, unless it is utterly pinned, something so close will mean you cant got at 8/10ths and saunter away easily, not that that is the point anyway.


Scottman

1,643 posts

241 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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I saw an Atom driving toward Stonehenge past the roadworks on the A303 last Thursday. Was that you?

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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The Jolly Todger said:
The comparison to the 911 midrange in the article is curious, presumably it is much faster than almost all 911s?
Almost?

I suspect with that weight and that power it's quicker than all 911s, the 4.0 included - so long as you're talking about speeds where the atom's aerodynamics don't count too much against it.

Any modenr 911 would be faster in a top speed race.

C

FELIX_5

952 posts

197 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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So much awesomeness for £40k!!

RocketRabbit

80 posts

161 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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A good car but very expensive for what you get and I don't like the fact that the rear spherical joints are in shear.

I absolutely don't believe that they weigh 520kg either, certainly not in a fashion you can drive them in.

Matt UK

17,701 posts

200 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Like the Atom a lot.. but still couldn't buy one instead of a Caterham.

356Speedster

2,293 posts

231 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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RocketRabbit said:
A good car but very expensive for what you get and I don't like the fact that the rear spherical joints are in shear.

I absolutely don't believe that they weigh 520kg either, certainly not in a fashion you can drive them in.
As an ex-owner, for the money it's a bit of a performance bargain. Granted you don't get much in terms of bells & whistles, but there's not many cars which give the same performance / handling for the price.

I do agree tho', I think 520kg was the weight for the Atom 1... not sure what the official Atom 3 or even 3.5 weight is.

Matt UK said:
Like the Atom a lot.. but still couldn't buy one instead of a Caterham.
I think they're different cars. I've got friends with Caterfields and have driven a few myself. They both drive in a very different manner, so I can understand why someone would prefer one over the other.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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356Speedster said:
RocketRabbit said:
A good car but very expensive for what you get and I don't like the fact that the rear spherical joints are in shear.

I absolutely don't believe that they weigh 520kg either, certainly not in a fashion you can drive them in.
As an ex-owner, for the money it's a bit of a performance bargain. Granted you don't get much in terms of bells & whistles, but there's not many cars which give the same performance / handling for the price.

I do agree tho', I think 520kg was the weight for the Atom 1... not sure what the official Atom 3 or even 3.5 weight is.
Yep the 520 was the Atom 1 with the Rover K-series which is massively lighter than the Honda motor.

Every so often someone joins the Atom Owner's Club forum to tell us how they are going to build an Atom out of spare bits they have lying around the place and it will cost them a tiny amount. The usual outcome is either:

i) We don't hear from them again

or

ii) They post some picture that look like a badly crash damaged Atom that has been repaired by someone who did not have welding goggles so hid behind a fence.

If you discount the R&D / NRE costs of building a low volume car then it can appear not to be good VFM. If you drive one you will think its the best bargain ever......

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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BigBen said:
Driller said:
Dammit if this was legal in France it would be my main car.
I have convoyed with loads of French registered Atoms, there is a dealer in France who can help.

Not driven a 3.5 yet but imagine I will soon.

Ben
Thanks for the info but the guy imported a lot of only 15 Atoms that he had permission to register in France. These are like hens teeth and stupidly expensive (€80,000!) as a result.

They are not allowing any more to be registered frown

Edited by Driller on Monday 11th February 17:58