One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2
Discussion
AndyDubbya said:
Hackney said:
2) anyone - and this phenomenon is on the increase - who indicates left when joining a roundabout of any size, as if to say, I'm going to take the roundabout clockwise today. One assumes they could indicate right and go anti-clockwise
Run that by us again... If it's not clear I'll explain it (hopefully lol)
Imagine a roundabout viewed from above with four exits, at 12 o'clock, 3 o clock, 6 o clock and 9 o clock. The round about has two lanes and each entry and exit comprises of two lanes.
If we imagine a driver approaching from the 12 o clock position who wants to turn right. You can imagine they should perhaps approach the roundabout in the right hand lane at the 12 o clock entrance, enter the roundabout indicating right then indicate left just after they pass the 6 o clock position ready to exit at the 9 o clock exit.
What they instead do is enter at the 12 o clock position in the left hand lane, and travel around the roundabout indicating left all the way. This can lead drivers waiting at the 3 and 6 o clock positions to think the driver will leave the roundabout at their clock position thus making it safe for the person at 3 or 6 o clock to enter.........only to have the driver indicating left sail by in front of them.
Raynkar said:
AndyDubbya said:
Hackney said:
2) anyone - and this phenomenon is on the increase - who indicates left when joining a roundabout of any size, as if to say, I'm going to take the roundabout clockwise today. One assumes they could indicate right and go anti-clockwise
Run that by us again... If it's not clear I'll explain it (hopefully lol)
Imagine a roundabout viewed from above with four exits, at 12 o'clock, 3 o clock, 6 o clock and 9 o clock. The round about has two lanes and each entry and exit comprises of two lanes.
If we imagine a driver approaching from the 12 o clock position who wants to turn right. You can imagine they should perhaps approach the roundabout in the right hand lane at the 12 o clock entrance, enter the roundabout indicating right then indicate left just after they pass the 6 o clock position ready to exit at the 9 o clock exit.
What they instead do is enter at the 12 o clock position in the left hand lane, and travel around the roundabout indicating left all the way. This can lead drivers waiting at the 3 and 6 o clock positions to think the driver will leave the roundabout at their clock position thus making it safe for the person at 3 or 6 o clock to enter.........only to have the driver indicating left sail by in front of them.
I would suggest that nothing be taken for granted on RB's nowadays. Any indication or positioning could be bogus.
I love these historical threads.
I remember when "roundabouts" were "roundabouts" and not the "acrossabouts" as we have now. Allow me to elaborate.
2 lanes going into a roundabout and 2 lanes going out. Let's say a car is approaching from the 6 o'clock position and going straight over to exit at 12 o'clock (when viewed from above). Why are the tts in the left hand of the 2 lanes absolutely incapable of following the lane AROUND the roundabout rather than scything across the right hand of the lanes? Councils have spent fking fortunes on painting on lines so just fking use them you mongs.
I remember when "roundabouts" were "roundabouts" and not the "acrossabouts" as we have now. Allow me to elaborate.
2 lanes going into a roundabout and 2 lanes going out. Let's say a car is approaching from the 6 o'clock position and going straight over to exit at 12 o'clock (when viewed from above). Why are the tts in the left hand of the 2 lanes absolutely incapable of following the lane AROUND the roundabout rather than scything across the right hand of the lanes? Councils have spent fking fortunes on painting on lines so just fking use them you mongs.
WD39 said:
Raynkar said:
AndyDubbya said:
Hackney said:
2) anyone - and this phenomenon is on the increase - who indicates left when joining a roundabout of any size, as if to say, I'm going to take the roundabout clockwise today. One assumes they could indicate right and go anti-clockwise
Run that by us again... If it's not clear I'll explain it (hopefully lol)
Imagine a roundabout viewed from above with four exits, at 12 o'clock, 3 o clock, 6 o clock and 9 o clock. The round about has two lanes and each entry and exit comprises of two lanes.
If we imagine a driver approaching from the 12 o clock position who wants to turn right. You can imagine they should perhaps approach the roundabout in the right hand lane at the 12 o clock entrance, enter the roundabout indicating right then indicate left just after they pass the 6 o clock position ready to exit at the 9 o clock exit.
What they instead do is enter at the 12 o clock position in the left hand lane, and travel around the roundabout indicating left all the way. This can lead drivers waiting at the 3 and 6 o clock positions to think the driver will leave the roundabout at their clock position thus making it safe for the person at 3 or 6 o clock to enter.........only to have the driver indicating left sail by in front of them.
I would suggest that nothing be taken for granted on RB's nowadays. Any indication or positioning could be bogus.
I have never seen anyone indicate left otherwise - unless they are leaving the RAB.
Mandalore said:
WD39 said:
Raynkar said:
AndyDubbya said:
Hackney said:
2) anyone - and this phenomenon is on the increase - who indicates left when joining a roundabout of any size, as if to say, I'm going to take the roundabout clockwise today. One assumes they could indicate right and go anti-clockwise
Run that by us again... If it's not clear I'll explain it (hopefully lol)
Imagine a roundabout viewed from above with four exits, at 12 o'clock, 3 o clock, 6 o clock and 9 o clock. The round about has two lanes and each entry and exit comprises of two lanes.
If we imagine a driver approaching from the 12 o clock position who wants to turn right. You can imagine they should perhaps approach the roundabout in the right hand lane at the 12 o clock entrance, enter the roundabout indicating right then indicate left just after they pass the 6 o clock position ready to exit at the 9 o clock exit.
What they instead do is enter at the 12 o clock position in the left hand lane, and travel around the roundabout indicating left all the way. This can lead drivers waiting at the 3 and 6 o clock positions to think the driver will leave the roundabout at their clock position thus making it safe for the person at 3 or 6 o clock to enter.........only to have the driver indicating left sail by in front of them.
I would suggest that nothing be taken for granted on RB's nowadays. Any indication or positioning could be bogus.
I have never seen anyone indicate left otherwise - unless they are leaving the RAB.
I see it literally every few days.
On the other hand I see drivers taking the third exit (turning right) at a roundabout without any indication every single day.
WD39 said:
Raynkar said:
AndyDubbya said:
Hackney said:
2) anyone - and this phenomenon is on the increase - who indicates left when joining a roundabout of any size, as if to say, I'm going to take the roundabout clockwise today. One assumes they could indicate right and go anti-clockwise
Run that by us again... If it's not clear I'll explain it (hopefully lol)
Imagine a roundabout viewed from above with four exits, at 12 o'clock, 3 o clock, 6 o clock and 9 o clock. The round about has two lanes and each entry and exit comprises of two lanes.
If we imagine a driver approaching from the 12 o clock position who wants to turn right. You can imagine they should perhaps approach the roundabout in the right hand lane at the 12 o clock entrance, enter the roundabout indicating right then indicate left just after they pass the 6 o clock position ready to exit at the 9 o clock exit.
What they instead do is enter at the 12 o clock position in the left hand lane, and travel around the roundabout indicating left all the way. This can lead drivers waiting at the 3 and 6 o clock positions to think the driver will leave the roundabout at their clock position thus making it safe for the person at 3 or 6 o clock to enter.........only to have the driver indicating left sail by in front of them.
I would suggest that nothing be taken for granted on RB's nowadays. Any indication or positioning could be bogus.
Edited by Raynkar on Friday 10th April 21:01
boxedin said:
jogger1976 said:
A quick public service announcement for 90% of drivers I've encountered using the M25 over Easter: WHEN NOT OVERTAKING: KEEP THE fk LEFT, YOU BUNCH OF SELFISH, IGNORANT TOSSERS!!!! And breath.
<sigh> Its the M25... London / Paris Ring [1] rules apply. Use all the lanes, make progress, go...[1] slightly ruined by the speed cameras that came in some years ago.
In a licensed cab the other day. 'Driver' was perfectly representative of the average UK steering wheel operative. Some of the highlights:-
(1) Using the clutch as an one-off switch. I now understand the purpose of a clutch delay valve (which is nothing but an irritation to anyone with nerves in their legs and feet).
(2) Joining a motorway with no other cars on it, and moving immediately into the middle lane and staying there no matter what - including not moving left when the motorway gained a lane, being overtaken repeatedly on the left, etc, refusing to overtake if it means going into the scary 'fast lane'. To be fair, he did sway around in the lane a fair bit because he was always driving with one hand and paying barely any attention.
(3) Always always leaving braking until the very last minute and never using a bit of forward planning to just ease off the accelerator a bit. He would have ploughed into the back of a couple of cars at lights without the benefit of big, grippy tyres and maybe even ABS (although I couldn't see the instrument panel so can't be sure).
(4) The clincher - driving 20 or so miles on a motorway in 5th gear in a car that has 6 gears. Even worse, it was a diesel, so he was at 3000rpm, the whole car was vibrating and the engine wasnt even providing more torque than it would in top.
I spent the whole journey just thinking 'What a fking nobhead'. It did occur to me to say something (especially re changing up, because that was really weird), but he spent the journey on Bluetooth speaking Hindi (I think) and kept calling me 'Boss' when he did speak to me.
(1) Using the clutch as an one-off switch. I now understand the purpose of a clutch delay valve (which is nothing but an irritation to anyone with nerves in their legs and feet).
(2) Joining a motorway with no other cars on it, and moving immediately into the middle lane and staying there no matter what - including not moving left when the motorway gained a lane, being overtaken repeatedly on the left, etc, refusing to overtake if it means going into the scary 'fast lane'. To be fair, he did sway around in the lane a fair bit because he was always driving with one hand and paying barely any attention.
(3) Always always leaving braking until the very last minute and never using a bit of forward planning to just ease off the accelerator a bit. He would have ploughed into the back of a couple of cars at lights without the benefit of big, grippy tyres and maybe even ABS (although I couldn't see the instrument panel so can't be sure).
(4) The clincher - driving 20 or so miles on a motorway in 5th gear in a car that has 6 gears. Even worse, it was a diesel, so he was at 3000rpm, the whole car was vibrating and the engine wasnt even providing more torque than it would in top.
I spent the whole journey just thinking 'What a fking nobhead'. It did occur to me to say something (especially re changing up, because that was really weird), but he spent the journey on Bluetooth speaking Hindi (I think) and kept calling me 'Boss' when he did speak to me.
m8rky said:
mrslowly said:
When in dull weather, people drive without headlights on, mostly people in silver cars so it's even harder to see them.
This.Sussex Police hang your heads in shame.Bit of a local gripe of mine with the local BiB,forever see them in bad weather or at twilight without any lights on.
They even apologised and gave me a wave when they peeled off at the next roundabout.
Edited by JoshMay on Friday 10th April 22:23
AMGpower said:
People who talk as if they know all there is to know about cars and then tell you all about that new "naturally-aspirated turbo" in the Audi RS6...
My cousin drives a super-charged car with a blower, as far as I am aware there is no double super-charged car out there. If there isn't however may I just add PATENT PENDING!!! That should do it
JoshMay said:
AMGpower said:
People who talk as if they know all there is to know about cars and then tell you all about that new "naturally-aspirated turbo" in the Audi RS6...
My cousin drives a super-charged car with a blower, as far as I am aware there is no double super-charged car out there. If there isn't however may I just add PATENT PENDING!!! That should do it
Back on topic.
People who say...
"I had a choice between hitting "A" or "B" and I chose..."
...when talking about a collision. If it were a choice surely you should have chosen not to hit anything.
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