RE: PH Carpool: Toyota Celica GT4
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A few sensible mods do help, whiteline rear ARB very important, a good ebc will see a reliable 300bhp.
Very quick cross country car, very comftable and feels rock solid, even my 17 year old car.
Fuel economy on track is not good, but what is, driven sensibly 30mpg is easy to get, not as expensive as the Evo or Scubby.
And some great owners clubs like the GT4OC (www.gt4oc.net) and the GT4DC with a great knowledge base and very helpful members and lots of good meetings.
A heck of a lot of performance and road holding for not a huge amount of money.
(very easy to embarrass some "performance car")
Very quick cross country car, very comftable and feels rock solid, even my 17 year old car.
Fuel economy on track is not good, but what is, driven sensibly 30mpg is easy to get, not as expensive as the Evo or Scubby.
And some great owners clubs like the GT4OC (www.gt4oc.net) and the GT4DC with a great knowledge base and very helpful members and lots of good meetings.
A heck of a lot of performance and road holding for not a huge amount of money.
(very easy to embarrass some "performance car")
I agree with Crossy (Hi Ian!) that soem feel faster than others. I had 2 ST205s. Both imports - both fantastic, but weirdly they were quite different from each other. The first was very tight, smooth and comfy. The second was savage, brutal and noisy. BOth fab.
SHame they were banned from WRC for the turbo cheating... otherwise they would have developed the (road) car much more. Therefore an evo6 isn't really a fair comparison - much newer car! Compare the ST205 to a same-era Evo or STi and it's easily the nicest (not that the others aren't great - I like em all!). Rarer, MUCH cheaper to run and insure, and from what I can gather far more reliable...! And the boot is much bigger cos of the hatchback.
Fig8s aren't that expensive to replace... not cheap, but compared with some parts for modern cars they aren't that much. When I did mine withlower arms the bill was under £600... that's a lot, but compared with the cost of a reconditioned power steering pump for a Fabia at £499 on an exchange basis, PLUS fitting... that's not too bad...
The only problem with the ST205 is it is a GT and not a rally car to me - easy to drive fast because it is smooth and refined. I never really had FUN in them. In Germany on the WRC trip we were cruising one handed at 120mph and it felt so normal - not fast at all.
I'd deffo get another one!
SHame they were banned from WRC for the turbo cheating... otherwise they would have developed the (road) car much more. Therefore an evo6 isn't really a fair comparison - much newer car! Compare the ST205 to a same-era Evo or STi and it's easily the nicest (not that the others aren't great - I like em all!). Rarer, MUCH cheaper to run and insure, and from what I can gather far more reliable...! And the boot is much bigger cos of the hatchback.
Fig8s aren't that expensive to replace... not cheap, but compared with some parts for modern cars they aren't that much. When I did mine withlower arms the bill was under £600... that's a lot, but compared with the cost of a reconditioned power steering pump for a Fabia at £499 on an exchange basis, PLUS fitting... that's not too bad...
The only problem with the ST205 is it is a GT and not a rally car to me - easy to drive fast because it is smooth and refined. I never really had FUN in them. In Germany on the WRC trip we were cruising one handed at 120mph and it felt so normal - not fast at all.
I'd deffo get another one!
Well done searching out a one lady owner . Probably one of the most underated cars Toyota has produced. I miss my old GT4 greatly . Typically over engineered as a road car with those massive brakes & solid build . Keep it standard fella - it'll stand out even more in years to come compared to all most all the others that have been modded . Fantastic !
I've finally decided to sell mine after owning Celica's for 9 years now, definitely time for a change but I'll miss loving getting in it after every work provided hire car! Proper solid, no BS car that'll put a smile on your face every time you get on a B-road!
The white one earlier in the thread (Ferdy's?) is a beaut - I was that black Evo X behind you in one of the pictures at Gainsborough
Here's mine if anyone's interested in a standard, unmolested version - bearing in mind I really would like this to go to an enthusiast - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Estate car here I come
The white one earlier in the thread (Ferdy's?) is a beaut - I was that black Evo X behind you in one of the pictures at Gainsborough
Here's mine if anyone's interested in a standard, unmolested version - bearing in mind I really would like this to go to an enthusiast - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Estate car here I come
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