John 'O' Groats To Lands End - Our Story & Potential Record?
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SpeckledJim said:
Indeed. He could have made himself much, much harder to prosecute, without much effort.
And now he's in the Daily Mail crowing about it, he's guaranteed a strong response from the system.
Yep.And now he's in the Daily Mail crowing about it, he's guaranteed a strong response from the system.
He’s going to get his arse handed to him.
I love it when people do these kind of ‘cannonball runs’ which include heavily modified cars and loads of careful planning, and I was impressed with his run, but this guy has well truly got himself into trouble which could have most likely been avoided, or as you say, made much much harder at the very least.
Lord Marylebone said:
SpeckledJim said:
Indeed. He could have made himself much, much harder to prosecute, without much effort.
And now he's in the Daily Mail crowing about it, he's guaranteed a strong response from the system.
Yep.And now he's in the Daily Mail crowing about it, he's guaranteed a strong response from the system.
He’s going to get his arse handed to him.
I love it when people do these kind of ‘cannonball runs’ which include heavily modified cars and loads of careful planning, and I was impressed with his run, but this guy has well truly got himself into trouble which could have most likely been avoided, or as you say, made much much harder at the very least.
AngryPartsBloke said:
320d is all you need said:
a few of "the boys" should be sent round.
And you're going to be one of them internet hardman? How very 'my dad can beat up your dad'.Utterly pathetic comment.
Why are you not this angry at someone on this shared car enthusiast forum and supposedly a sort of "safe space for speeders" to share their stories and successes without some other angry, sad little individual reporting them to the Police?
320d is all you need said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
320d is all you need said:
a few of "the boys" should be sent round.
And you're going to be one of them internet hardman? How very 'my dad can beat up your dad'.Utterly pathetic comment.
Why are you not this angry at someone on this shared car enthusiast forum and supposedly a sort of "safe space for speeders" to share their stories and successes without some other angry, sad little individual reporting them to the Police?
.Anyway, this isn't a 'safe space for speeders'. It's a publicly indexed forum that anyone can view without being signed in. Fact that this guy kep all of the evidence on his driveway suggests he has been less than careful with the story.
320d is all you need said:
Why on earth would you snitch on someone like that?
Because, in the view of the informant (only 12 year olds in the playground call it “snitching”) our “hero” crossed a line.Here, we are all enthusiasts of motor vehicles and driving, albeit with vastly different tastes, budgets, skills, experience and ambitions. We are all no doubt guilty of straying towards the edges of what’s considered generally acceptable from time to time, again with differing thresholds.
But I’m pretty sure 99% would agree this exploit went beyond what even the most hardened, risqué driver would consider noble, more so when linked with the total idiocy of making it all so public, and double that further when said publicity is bookmarked with a clear belief that “they can’t touch me for it now”.
Bellends like this achieve absolutely bugger all beyond furthering the gradual criminalisation of recreational car ownership and driving for pleasure.
Well done him.
As a traffic police officer once said to me “The problem is, these special kind of idiots think they can live out the action movie that’s playing in their own heads”
Crossflow Kid said:
320d is all you need said:
Why on earth would you snitch on someone like that?
Because, in the view of the informant (only 12 year olds in the playground call it “snitching”) our “hero” crossed a line.Here, we are all enthusiasts of motor vehicles and driving, albeit with vastly different tastes, budgets, skills, experience and ambitions. We are all no doubt guilty of straying towards the edges of what’s considered generally acceptable from time to time, again with differing thresholds.
But I’m pretty sure 99% would agree this exploit went beyond what even the most hardened, risqué driver would consider noble, more so when linked with the total idiocy of making it all so public, and double that further when said publicity is bookmarked with a clear belief that “they can’t touch me for it now”.
Bellends like this achieve absolutely bugger all beyond furthering the gradual criminalisation of recreational car ownership and driving for pleasure.
Well done him.
As a traffic police officer once said to me “The problem is, these special kind of idiots think they can live out the action movie that’s playing in their own heads”
Those are documented, video recorded and then shared online months/years later.
Check it out on VinWiki.
They go above and beyond by having spotters clear for traffic and in some cases even have people "block" Police cars (by perhaps taking a few extra seconds to move out of the way).
You can view it that way, I view it that it's quite a cool thing, and if I was braver / richer then I'd love to have attempted something like this a few years ago. Not really possible now with all of the extra speed cameras and potential police enforcement.
Whether you agree with it or not I really struggle to understand the mindset of someone who thinks someone on this board tipping off the police on another member is OK.... Never would I snitch on someone in such a way. Even if he has not helped himself by leaving evidence around etc.
Do you phone the police when your neighbour had a friend over in Lockdown?
320d is all you need said:
If someone from this Forum grassed up him , he should be permanently banned from the forum and a few of "the boys" should be sent round.
Why on earth would you snitch on someone like that?
I wonder if he goes into all of the articles on cars, and reports them to the police for "dangerous driving" when doing drifting pictures.
What a really odd world.
Far too much hand wringing by some on this thread, clearly Brake members infiltrating our ranks. Why on earth would you snitch on someone like that?
I wonder if he goes into all of the articles on cars, and reports them to the police for "dangerous driving" when doing drifting pictures.
What a really odd world.
A valiant effort with a few (minor) issues..
I wonder how many resources were diverted onto tracking him down and bringing this case to the courts for a bit of minor speeding ?
imagineifyeswill said:
I think your way overestimating things there,Ive been travelling the A9 Inverness to Perth regularly for over 40 years and if anything it's getting slower, in my opinion I think it would be next to impossible to average 100mph between Inverness and Perth.
The fastest I ever managed was 90 minutes and that's a long time ago.
I fail to see how either of them did the JOG to Inverness stage in the time they claim
On midsummer night back in the early nineties I once did Southwaite services M6 north to Inverness in a Mercedes 814 truck in 4 hours 10 minutes but the whole road was completely empty for some reason, I doubt I coul repeat that now in a car
60 mph average speed cameras almost all the way and big sections of roadworks as well. Once the doubling is complete & assuming a disregard for the cameras that, let's be honest, aren't going to be removed, then silly speeds should be possible again.The fastest I ever managed was 90 minutes and that's a long time ago.
I fail to see how either of them did the JOG to Inverness stage in the time they claim
On midsummer night back in the early nineties I once did Southwaite services M6 north to Inverness in a Mercedes 814 truck in 4 hours 10 minutes but the whole road was completely empty for some reason, I doubt I coul repeat that now in a car
320d is all you need said:
Crossflow Kid said:
320d is all you need said:
Why on earth would you snitch on someone like that?
Because, in the view of the informant (only 12 year olds in the playground call it “snitching”) our “hero” crossed a line.Here, we are all enthusiasts of motor vehicles and driving, albeit with vastly different tastes, budgets, skills, experience and ambitions. We are all no doubt guilty of straying towards the edges of what’s considered generally acceptable from time to time, again with differing thresholds.
But I’m pretty sure 99% would agree this exploit went beyond what even the most hardened, risqué driver would consider noble, more so when linked with the total idiocy of making it all so public, and double that further when said publicity is bookmarked with a clear belief that “they can’t touch me for it now”.
Bellends like this achieve absolutely bugger all beyond furthering the gradual criminalisation of recreational car ownership and driving for pleasure.
Well done him.
As a traffic police officer once said to me “The problem is, these special kind of idiots think they can live out the action movie that’s playing in their own heads”
320d is all you need said:
if I was braver / richer then I'd love to have attempted something like this a few years ago. Not really possible now with all of the extra speed cameras and potential police enforcement.
But surely with “the boys” on your side a few gormless flatfoots shouldn’t stand in your way?Sounds like a cop-out to me.
320d is all you need said:
he has not helped himself by leaving evidence around etc.
So the snitching bit is largely irrelevant then?320d is all you need said:
Do you phone the police when your neighbour had a friend over in Lockdown?
No. There is a multitude of reasons why someone might be legitimately visiting my neighbours during lockdown. It’s a case of considering all possible outcomes before taking action, unlike “sending the boys round” at the first hint of anything.320d is all you need said:
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Whether you agree with it or not I really struggle to understand the mindset of someone who thinks someone on this board tipping off the police on another member is OK.... Never would I snitch on someone in such a way. Even if he has not helped himself by leaving evidence around etc.
Do you phone the police when your neighbour had a friend over in Lockdown?
The person I was thinking of as the snitch wasn't a regular member here, but a troll by the name of Steve Callaghan who posted here as 'pitmansboots' who now works for this bunchWhether you agree with it or not I really struggle to understand the mindset of someone who thinks someone on this board tipping off the police on another member is OK.... Never would I snitch on someone in such a way. Even if he has not helped himself by leaving evidence around etc.
Do you phone the police when your neighbour had a friend over in Lockdown?
https://www.roadsafetysupport.co.uk
so he definitely wasn't one of 'us'.
However the D&C Safety Camera chief, having said they monitored the forums, now says they picked this up when it was in the paper.
I agree that snitching/grassing/telling tales/informing on something like this is abhorrent, but its a fact of life now with dash cams and anti-car cyclists such as the Dutch guy in London. So I'm probably fighting a losing battle against increasing authoritanism with society moving towards a Stasi state where such behaviour is not only acceptable, but expected from every citizen.
As others have said, the new record-holder seems to have made no effort at all to cover his tracks, perhaps he wanted his day in court?
C7 JFW said:
Interesting story.
It sounds like quite some time has been spent on gathering and reviewing evidence, I wonder what the total cost of the investigation has been to date.
I'm guessing the cost of the investigation is surprisingly little.It sounds like quite some time has been spent on gathering and reviewing evidence, I wonder what the total cost of the investigation has been to date.
How much does it cost to read a Pistonheads thread and a Daily Mail article, make a few phone calls, then walk onto the defendants driveway and lift up a tarpaulin?
This guy seems to have made it very, very easy for the Police. So many 'schoolboy errors' that the Police must be laughing.
320d is all you need said:
Where I grew up (South London), if you snitched you could very well be killed.
People were assaulted, cars vandalised etc.
Snitching is the lowest of low in my book. Especially to do so "anonymously" over the internet.
“send the boys around” People were assaulted, cars vandalised etc.
Snitching is the lowest of low in my book. Especially to do so "anonymously" over the internet.
would you personally be involved in that, what sounds to be a very homoerotic affair?I have never personally felt the need to grass anyone up for anything but always makes me laugh seeing people who aren’t crime bosses saying it is the lowest of low.
Surely paedophilia and rape is a tad worse, no? Of course if that happened on your doorstep you wouldn’t do anything about it would you. Let them get on with it with impunity.
As others have said this guy seems to have done all of the work himself in regards to giving the police everything they need.
SpeckledJim said:
It's not down to a 'snitcher'. The guy volunteered all the detail on the country's biggest motoring forum, thinking he couldn't be caught.
I bet 100 police officers have read this thread, in which he essentially taunts them.
That's what I was thinking; though I've not read the whole thread. I bet 100 police officers have read this thread, in which he essentially taunts them.
What did the "snitcher" actually do?
320d is all you need said:
Fittster said:
320d is all you need said:
a few of "the boys" should be sent round.
What a really odd world.
You certainly appear to live in one.What a really odd world.
People were assaulted, cars vandalised etc.
Snitching is the lowest of low in my book. Especially to do so "anonymously" over the internet.
People who are bothered about being snitched on are second rate criminals who leave a massive trail of evidence behind them, just like the idiot who thought he could have 5 minutes of fame with no consequences.
Lord Marylebone said:
C7 JFW said:
Interesting story.
It sounds like quite some time has been spent on gathering and reviewing evidence, I wonder what the total cost of the investigation has been to date.
I'm guessing the cost of the investigation is surprisingly little.It sounds like quite some time has been spent on gathering and reviewing evidence, I wonder what the total cost of the investigation has been to date.
How much does it cost to read a Pistonheads thread and a Daily Mail article, make a few phone calls, then walk onto the defendants driveway and lift up a tarpaulin?
This guy seems to have made it very, very easy for the Police. So many 'schoolboy errors' that the Police must be laughing.
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