John 'O' Groats To Lands End - Our Story & Potential Record?

John 'O' Groats To Lands End - Our Story & Potential Record?

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Gad-Westy

14,572 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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CKY said:
Only question I have from the past pages - WTF is "...a real dime bar moment"? Saw some chap say it, wasn't sure if he'd misspelt 'Daim Bar' or if it was some odd turn-of-phrase which i'd never heard before.
Just to clear up this pressing matter.... "Daim bar" was called "Dime bar" in the UK until 2005.

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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So the guy that claimed he did a Lejog record on PH, then claimed in court is was BS, is now claiming he has done a Canonball run in the US and is publicising it. Surely he has had one lucky escape and is now taking the piss...

Jobbo

12,972 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Pistom said:
That is really boring to watch and the guy just comes over like he's a bit of a knob.

Vinwiki has had some interesting characters, this guy isn't one of them.
He's good at self-promotion though, as evidenced by this very thread hehe Can't say I disagree with you...

I did watch all of it but must have drifted off because I don't remember what time he managed. Think my wife and I might do the Cannonball next year, maybe over a week with overnight stops. Probably won't bother with spotters.

Jobbo

12,972 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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CKY said:
Only question I have from the past pages - WTF is "...a real dime bar moment"? Saw some chap say it, wasn't sure if he'd misspelt 'Daim Bar' or if it was some odd turn-of-phrase which i'd never heard before.
I imagine it's a reference to the old adverts:
https://youtu.be/95ODBr2zbjU?si=oGOclH-IxK4xhSDY

Pistom

4,976 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Jobbo said:
He's good at self-promotion though, as evidenced by this very thread hehe Can't say I disagree with you...

I did watch all of it but must have drifted off because I don't remember what time he managed. Think my wife and I might do the Cannonball next year, maybe over a week with overnight stops. Probably won't bother with spotters.
Come on - own up - you're Harry Metcalfe aren't you hehe

Jobbo

12,972 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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laugh Keep watching, keep subscribing, more videos coming along very soon...

r5kdt

249 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Colonial said:
simon1987 said:
what a dick
Oh dear. Another one of them.

OP. Great post. Really great to read. Yeah, dangerous blah blah blah but it's proper English tradition at its finest.
+1 Great post ! and sorry for your loss

untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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More detail about the trip and subsequent trial



Thought the cell site data from the phone would have been a slam dunk for the prosecution but it looks like the speed camera network actually got him off.

PH thread shown around the 10 minute mark.

outnumbered

4,090 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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Thanks for posting that, interesting to hear the inside story. The prosecution must have been quite unhappy after spending a great deal of money, but on the other hand, it's probably still discouraged anyone from trying to do similar (or posting about it, anyway!).

stanlow45

304 posts

7 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Superb effort. More than a few Brakists’ heads will be imploding… laugh


Billy_Rosewood

3,107 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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I watched the vinwiki video a few days ago, I couldn't believe he got away with it tbh..

Surely his phone would have been evidence enough.

I'd like to know how they worked out the impossibility of slowing for speed cameras / there was no way to average the required speed to do the run without getting flashed.

Good on him in one regard, but a complete piss taker in the other laugh

Stick Legs

4,930 posts

166 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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It’s interesting but I can’t square the circle that he either is lying to us or the Crown.

Frankly I’d sleep sounder at night having lied to you lot.

Balls of steel to carry on at Crown court self representing (I did it once but all that was at stake was a 12 month disqualification).

The idea of jail time for driving is enough to dissuade me from attempting such a stunt.

outnumbered

4,090 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Billy_Rosewood said:
I watched the vinwiki video a few days ago, I couldn't believe he got away with it tbh..

Surely his phone would have been evidence enough.

I'd like to know how they worked out the impossibility of slowing for speed cameras / there was no way to average the required speed to do the run without getting flashed.

Good on him in one regard, but a complete piss taker in the other laugh
He only has to put enough doubt in the jury's minds, so the calculation doesn't really have to be watertight.

I'm with you on your conclusion.

Bobupndown

1,814 posts

44 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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He needs to write a "fictional" book about the journey now.

Pistom

4,976 posts

160 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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It's interesting to see that he used accepted precedent to demonstrate that speed in itself does not constitute dangerous driving but I'm not sure what must have been going through his head to try to use that as defence over an alleged 9 hour driving period. The judge agreed.

All the way through this though, you have to ask what's going through this guy's head.

Like most here, I've no issues with the speeds but there's no question in my mind - this guy has got away with nothing. He's put himself and his family through unbelievable hell. What kind of person does that to their family and all for a cool post on PH.

Whatever he did or didn't do, he's paid for it and whoever made the decision to prosecute has managed to dissuade others from following.

It's sometimes a little sad to see what people do to try to gain the approval of others and he's sacrificed his time and his families well being to do that.



Tommo87

4,220 posts

114 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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I calso aught the condensed summary on the VinWiki channel.

Interesting court case, especially the speed camera evidence.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Pistom said:
It's interesting to see that he used accepted precedent to demonstrate that speed in itself does not constitute dangerous driving but I'm not sure what must have been going through his head to try to use that as defence over an alleged 9 hour driving period. The judge agreed.

All the way through this though, you have to ask what's going through this guy's head.

Like most here, I've no issues with the speeds but there's no question in my mind - this guy has got away with nothing. He's put himself and his family through unbelievable hell. What kind of person does that to their family and all for a cool post on PH.

Whatever he did or didn't do, he's paid for it and whoever made the decision to prosecute has managed to dissuade others from following.

It's sometimes a little sad to see what people do to try to gain the approval of others and he's sacrificed his time and his families well being to do that.
Some people just do things for the fun of it.

Pistom

4,976 posts

160 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Slow said:
Some people just do things for the fun of it.
Exactly - And that's to be applauded. If that's where this ended then great but the fine line between having fun and being a knob is crossed when you post on social media regardless of the consequences to yourself and your loved ones.

The mind boggles how much stress he put his partner through when the poor lady was pregnant.

The thread starts with talk of "secrecy, covert refuelling rigs and such bks but then they go and post it on PH.

In the video he mentions something along the lines that it is believed that people who defend themselves often have mental health issues and he's added weight to that argument.

It's one thing arguing points with people you don't know on the internet - it's another to put yourself and loved ones through all that to share your story when you could have enjoyed the fun of the experience without any of the crap that followed.



hairykrishna

13,182 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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How did he get away with the laser/radar jammers? People have got prison time just for those in the past.

Countdown

39,960 posts

197 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Pistom said:
Slow said:
Some people just do things for the fun of it.
Exactly - And that's to be applauded. If that's where this ended then great but the fine line between having fun and being a knob is crossed when you post on social media regardless of the consequences to yourself and your loved ones.

The mind boggles how much stress he put his partner through when the poor lady was pregnant.

The thread starts with talk of "secrecy, covert refuelling rigs and such bks but then they go and post it on PH.

In the video he mentions something along the lines that it is believed that people who defend themselves often have mental health issues and he's added weight to that argument.

It's one thing arguing points with people you don't know on the internet - it's another to put yourself and loved ones through all that to share your story when you could have enjoyed the fun of the experience without any of the crap that followed.
Some people have a deep need to willy-wave. He could have just done the journey without posting about it at all but then he wouldn't have go all the fanbois singing his praises.