RE: Audi RS Q3 - official
Discussion
veevee said:
Noone is going to buy this. The yummy mummy market it's aimed at don't give a s
t. Anyone else with any interest will buy an S3 or S4 Avant. Will be on sale for a few months and then withdrawn.
In the same way that people said the Evoque was pointless and won't sell yet over 100,000 have been sold in a year.....t. Anyone else with any interest will buy an S3 or S4 Avant. Will be on sale for a few months and then withdrawn.talking of the sq5 when are the first ones going to be delivered. i want to test drive one. although many on here won't admit these types of cars have a role to play if you have a family and no time to drive a proper 2 seater sports car. for 99% of the time i'll be driving this does the job well.
car crazy said:
Oi clivey its also a lot quicker than the old 911 widowmakers you harp on about and with 4wd will run rings round them on track. Would love to see one of these versus an 80's 911 on the top gear tracktoppstuff said:
Oh lordy, seldom in the history of the internet has a keyboard warrior got it so spectacularly wrong....
Look up the word "ironic".
I saw the smiley the first time around. As I said: You need to do better.Look up the word "ironic".
toppstuff said:
Even taking that aside, your logic is flawed. No, let me correct that and to use a word you have already brought to the discussion in your assessment of people who like these cars - your logic is moronic.
Fast SUV's - always better than a slow SUV. Now't wrong with them.
No, that (I've highlighted in bold) is moronic. Always better than "a" slow SUV? I fear I am wasting my time.Fast SUV's - always better than a slow SUV. Now't wrong with them.
toppstuff said:
And calling people who like them "morons" - nice, a classy touch. Funny how you are precisely the kind of person you are attempting to stereotype. Good job.
Pseudo off-roaders, whether "fast" or not, are pointless and silly. Even the term 'Sport Utility Vehicle' is a load of marketing bull (what "sport"? the closest it gets is taking the kids to football practice). Sticking an 'RS' badge on them only makes things worse. This car does nothing that an RS3 Sportback or RS4 Avant won't. - The Q3 is smaller inside, therefore any claim of practicality over a regular car is dubious to start with.aka_kerrly said:
I appreciate the response, better than what I was expecting.
Likewise. 
aka_kerrly said:
You make valid points that manufactures have modernised cars as new technology becomes available!
Again: New doesn't equal better. Some examples: Vauxhall have reverted to traditional indicator stalks after the mess they made with the "one touch" setup. Ask the owner of a car how fun an electronic handbrake is when they get stuck on (I've personally seen it twice)...and much prefer the standard wipers with variable intermittent setting in my BMW to the infuriating auto setup in my Citroen. Added complexity and gimmickery is not progress.aka_kerrly said:
But, using the Porsche 911 example if Porsche still made 911s the way they did in the 80s plus one budget Porsche for those not able to afford the 911 would they be here now - NO.
Luckily Porsche realised that only selling a variety of 911s plus a budget version was not good for them so they decided to branch out into other markets eg SUVs. As a result of this Porsche sales have increased year on year for the last decade, mostly as a result of the Cayenne.
It is only because of Porsche diversifying that they are still in a position to offer ANY variant of the 911 including bonkers cars like the 4.0 RS which if they had stuck to their 80s business approach would never have existed.
Indeed...and diversification is fine if done in the right way (just like the saloon versions of the RS models - why not?). Personally I don't have a problem with the Cayenne because it IS a real fast 4x4. Porsche even entered it into the Trans Siberia Rally to prove it.Luckily Porsche realised that only selling a variety of 911s plus a budget version was not good for them so they decided to branch out into other markets eg SUVs. As a result of this Porsche sales have increased year on year for the last decade, mostly as a result of the Cayenne.
It is only because of Porsche diversifying that they are still in a position to offer ANY variant of the 911 including bonkers cars like the 4.0 RS which if they had stuck to their 80s business approach would never have existed.
This RSQXYZ3 though...it's pathetic. The RS4 Avant makes infinitely more sense.
aka_kerrly said:
Thus I think you are wrong and we need mainstream manufactures to keep offering cars to the masses to generate the sales/profits to allow them to make more niche cars for those who us who don't want something normal.
The problem is that Porsche has become just that: A mainstream manufacturer. Red tape and regulations mean that a small sports car company like TVR cannot survive today. - Look at the trouble Lotus is having (I'd have an Evora in a heartbeat). But whose fault is that? The rules & regs come from the Governments that we put in power. They are supposed to do what we tell them and if that means allowing special dispensation / exception from certain regs for enthusiasts' cars (to allow them to exist), then that's what we need to demand.aka_kerrly said:
The revy Type R models and 6 cylinder petrol Mercs have effectively been destroyed by Government or specifically EU regulations NOT because enthusiasts didn't demand them so that is entirely different.
See above. - If we stood up for ourselves etc.MonkeyMatt said:
So many people on here saying that its pointless! This car will be sold out before you know! Audi has built a car that the market wants, like it or not! If you would rather buy something else, go and buy it (or stick with the st heap you have and shut up)
I think is a perfect example of the 'market' being full of dicks to be honest. t heap you have and shut up)What happens when stupid people have access to cheap finance?
A: RS Q3
The RS Q3 would appear to be an inferior car in many ways to the S4 Avant for example. Also roughly the same price.
The only reason you would buy a q3 over an s4 is to show off. Classic 'style' (if you can call it that) over actual ability and substance.
In my opinion if you buy one, you are stupid
I stand by that!
The only reason you would buy a q3 over an s4 is to show off. Classic 'style' (if you can call it that) over actual ability and substance.
In my opinion if you buy one, you are stupid
I stand by that!aka_kerrly said:
veevee said:
Noone is going to buy this. The yummy mummy market it's aimed at don't give a st. Anyone else with any interest will buy an S3 or S4 Avant. Will be on sale for a few months and then withdrawn.
In the same way that people said the Evoque was pointless and won't sell yet over 100,000 have been sold in a year.....t. Anyone else with any interest will buy an S3 or S4 Avant. Will be on sale for a few months and then withdrawn.I always love threads which contain new Audis. Brings out the diddly wacks at such a rate to froth over their keyboards.
To condense the responses thus;
1 It's not an RS and it's diluting the RS brand
2 It's not a proper RS as it's only got one tailpipe
3 It's not a proper drivers car as it's big and fat and will fall over in corners.
4 It's not like a proper fast SUV like a Cayenne because thats been in a rally
5 All Audi drivers and owners are helmets (probably, i'm just guessing thats been said at some point)
Incidentally, is the RS not just the "sporty" side of the business tuning up what could be described as a soft roader? Bit like this really
Did that dilute the brand?
Is that not a proper STI?
Is that a proper drivers car?
Is that a proper fast SUV?
Are all drivers of this helmets?
(and before anyone states that it's basically a rebodied Impreza, isn't the Audi basically a rebodied RS3?)
More pertinently, is everyone not just on a massive Clarkson fuelled bandwagon lynching of a successful brand which is quite rightly bringing out products to the marketplace which it know a) won't sell that much but b) will get the market talking about their cars and quite possibly getting a few bums in seats on models lower down the price range.
It's quite amazing this place sometimes. You'd think that every B road in the country was perpetually occupied by "hooners" drifting RWD naturally aspirated low weight drivers cars.
I drive on B roads - i'm not bombarded by driving heroes on full lock as i make my merry way. I'm more likely to experience someone coming in the opposite direction in their diesel hatchback just trying to get to home or work.
To condense the responses thus;
1 It's not an RS and it's diluting the RS brand
2 It's not a proper RS as it's only got one tailpipe
3 It's not a proper drivers car as it's big and fat and will fall over in corners.
4 It's not like a proper fast SUV like a Cayenne because thats been in a rally
5 All Audi drivers and owners are helmets (probably, i'm just guessing thats been said at some point)
Incidentally, is the RS not just the "sporty" side of the business tuning up what could be described as a soft roader? Bit like this really
Did that dilute the brand?
Is that not a proper STI?
Is that a proper drivers car?
Is that a proper fast SUV?
Are all drivers of this helmets?
(and before anyone states that it's basically a rebodied Impreza, isn't the Audi basically a rebodied RS3?)
More pertinently, is everyone not just on a massive Clarkson fuelled bandwagon lynching of a successful brand which is quite rightly bringing out products to the marketplace which it know a) won't sell that much but b) will get the market talking about their cars and quite possibly getting a few bums in seats on models lower down the price range.
It's quite amazing this place sometimes. You'd think that every B road in the country was perpetually occupied by "hooners" drifting RWD naturally aspirated low weight drivers cars.
I drive on B roads - i'm not bombarded by driving heroes on full lock as i make my merry way. I'm more likely to experience someone coming in the opposite direction in their diesel hatchback just trying to get to home or work.
Well said Lenny 007, I own an Audi nobody that's ever met me has called me a numpty to my face and my old cerbera was recently clocked at 202 mph at bruntinthorpe so I cannot be accused of not liking driver's cars (ok the new owner has put a 5.7 V8 in it
) This and many other anti Audi threads are bandwagons jumped on by sheep that probably have never even driven an Audi
) This and many other anti Audi threads are bandwagons jumped on by sheep that probably have never even driven an AudiI think the 'Its not an RS' point is quite valid. Surely this car is ideally suited to an S not an RS badge. It doesnt have the power or performance of any other RS model ever produced. It's power and performance levels are lower infact than even current S badged models. Why it this an RS Q3 and not an S Q3?
Audi already have a perfectly good 'Better than normal but not an RS' brand. Why are they not using it for this car?
It *does* dilute the RS brand because never before has an RS badged Audi been so slow and relatively unpowerful.
Audi already have a perfectly good 'Better than normal but not an RS' brand. Why are they not using it for this car?
It *does* dilute the RS brand because never before has an RS badged Audi been so slow and relatively unpowerful.
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