RE: Audi RS Q3 - official

[anonymous-user]

I dont like/understand therefore it pointless/rubbish!

What stupid answers

[TaylotS2K]

I certainly DON'T like the exterior looks. It looks like a bubble car.

[Leebo310]

Megaflow said:

No.

Look, just stop it now.

Can somebody please explain to the German's they don't have to produce a car for every niche on the market.

Why does someone always post something like this??

Audi is a business.
The greater range of products that a business has, then it means they have a greater range of people that they appeal to.
The more people that they appeal to means that there are more people to potentially sell to.
The more people that they can sell them to, the more money they make.

Simples

[anonymous-user]

Leebo310 said:

Why does someone always post something like this??

Audi is a business.
The greater range of products that a business has, then it means they have a greater range of people that they appeal to.
The more people that they appeal to means that there are more people to potentially sell to.
The more people that they can sell them to, the more money they make.

Simples

You are forgetting that there are a lot silly people here!

[NIIKME]

this MUST be a joke. checks watch... nope its not April 1st yet ?
ridiculous.

[rudecherub]

Yorkshirepud said:

Ok bare with me.

Lower it.
Make it a little narrower.
Keep it an Avant.
Keep the 5 cylinder turbo mount it in-line with proper rather than pretend four wheel drive with 40/60 front rear bias. ie Quattro
Rebadge it RS2/2

I'll have one.

Fixed that for you.

[Leebo310]

MonkeyMatt said:

You are forgetting that there are a lot silly people here!

[NIIKME]

Leebo310 said:

Why does someone always post something like this??

Audi is a business.
The greater range of products that a business has, then it means they have a greater range of people that they appeal to.
The more people that they appeal to means that there are more people to potentially sell to.
The more people that they can sell them to, the more money they make.

Simples

Yet Apple, one of the most profitable companies in the world actually only has about 4 or 5 product lines. Go figure (as the say across the pond!).

[underphil]

Another car for people with lots of money and no real interest in cars

[g3org3y]

Question is, will BMW be making an X1M or X3M to compete?

[hiredog]

Looks like its missing a RS exhaust to me, having one just makes it look lopsided

[rudecherub]

NIIKME said:

Leebo310 said:

Why does someone always post something like this??

Audi is a business.
The greater range of products that a business has, then it means they have a greater range of people that they appeal to.
The more people that they appeal to means that there are more people to potentially sell to.
The more people that they can sell them to, the more money they make.

Simples

Yet Apple, one of the most profitable companies in the world actually only has about 4 or 5 product lines. Go figure (as the say across the pond!).

Well technically audi has one product line - a car, each version of the car is a product created to cater to a different market segment. In marketing terms a product is differentiated by something as inconsequential as packaging, so each variant is marketing speak a different product in and of itself, same is true of apple, change a sticker, or firmware, and it becomes a new product.

RS clearly means for the bean counters premium branding rather than the best performance specification, if it were the latter no haldrex equipped audi would get the moniker.

[benzpassion]

emicen said:

Such a pity there can no longer be a reasoned argument without the now standard PH abuse/condescending tone.

Ford engines are used in numerous production vehicles and you are misguided if you think they are not endorsed by Ford themselves. Ginetta, Caterham and Radical being just a few of the sports car manufacturers that utilise their engines, with an aftermarket tweek here and there. Crate motors bought from Ford themselves.

What would be a cogent argument, would be; will Ford allow their halo engine in the performance ecoboost frame be used by another manufacturer. I suspect not, but a lower performance or detuned version, quite possibly. The market a performance Evoque would be pitched at would be very different from a Kuga RS or anything similar Ford may have a vague nation of building, so may actually be an opportunity to prove their engine in a completely different platform/segment.

thanks for clearing up what I said, was what I said.

JLR haven't a snowball's chance in hell of getting Ford's performance developments of its EcoBoost engines, 2 litre, 2.3 litre, or otherwise.

The LRX/Evoque was conceived pre-2007, before Ford got shot to Tata. The supply of Ford 4 cyl petrols and PSA/Ford 4 cyl diesels was a legacy matter.

Ford has ramped up production of the new Fusion and new Escape since the introduction of the Evoque in 2011. Ford US sells around 4-500,000 Fusions and Escapes annually currently in the U.S., most of which have the 2 litre EcoBoost. Ford therefore needs most of the capacity of the Valencia plant for its own.

Almost five years on from the sale to Tata Ford regards JLR as a competitor, not a kind of preferred customer.

Fret not, though, if you believe the hype from Autocar and the BBC in the last 24 hrs, JLR will have a world-beating new engine facility of their own up and running soon, producing world-beating 4 cyl miracle engines, petrol and diesel, of which I'm sure JLR's world-class engineers will easily manage to top Ford's 300-350 hp EcoBoost, or, if Autocar is to be believed - stop sniggering! - will even outdo Mercedes' new 2 litre 360 hp engine, with over 180 PS/litre from their new 'Hotfire'.

[bishbash]

NIIKME said:

Yet Apple, one of the most profitable companies in the world actually only has about 4 or 5 product lines. Go figure (as the say across the pond!).

That's not really true, you can currently buy any one of 5 different iphones (4,4s,5-16GB,5-32GB,5-64GB) there are 5 lines of mac, with lots of configuration options, ipads in different configurations etc, plus loads of accessories, and about a zillion apps/books/mp3's

[rajkohli81]

I quite like the new SQ5 myself.. atleast that has some power and diesel economy, better that than an S-Line badged 2.0TDI

[Zyp]

Will be interesting to see what Porsche do engine wise to the forthcoming Macan.
Although based more on the Q5 (apparently), I suspect the pricing to be similar to this Audi.

So, Macan or RS Q3 for your money....


For the record, I quite like the look of the Audi.

[Leebo310]

NIIKME said:

Yet Apple, one of the most profitable companies in the world actually only has about 4 or 5 product lines. Go figure (as the say across the pond!).

True!
I'd say the difference is though that it's not really a niche Audi have had to invest much money into to produce a "new" product.
The already have the basic car chassis etc and then already have the engine, they just mashed them together to appeal to another 1% or whatever of people. (obviously the engineers probably did a bit more than "mash" but you get the point!)

If Apple wanted to start manufacturing TVs or something for example, there would be costs involved in setting up production lines etc I'd have thought.
Or maybe they're just too busy calculating how much more they can overcharge people for their existing products....

[pti]

benzpassion said:

emicen said:

Such a pity there can no longer be a reasoned argument without the now standard PH abuse/condescending tone.

Ford engines are used in numerous production vehicles and you are misguided if you think they are not endorsed by Ford themselves. Ginetta, Caterham and Radical being just a few of the sports car manufacturers that utilise their engines, with an aftermarket tweek here and there. Crate motors bought from Ford themselves.

What would be a cogent argument, would be; will Ford allow their halo engine in the performance ecoboost frame be used by another manufacturer. I suspect not, but a lower performance or detuned version, quite possibly. The market a performance Evoque would be pitched at would be very different from a Kuga RS or anything similar Ford may have a vague nation of building, so may actually be an opportunity to prove their engine in a completely different platform/segment.

thanks for clearing up what I said, was what I said.

JLR haven't a snowball's chance in hell of getting Ford's performance developments of its EcoBoost engines, 2 litre, 2.3 litre, or otherwise.

The LRX/Evoque was conceived pre-2007, before Ford got shot to Tata. The supply of Ford 4 cyl petrols and PSA/Ford 4 cyl diesels was a legacy matter.

Ford has ramped up production of the new Fusion and new Escape since the introduction of the Evoque in 2011. Ford US sells around 4-500,000 Fusions and Escapes annually currently in the U.S., most of which have the 2 litre EcoBoost. Ford therefore needs most of the capacity of the Valencia plant for its own.

Almost five years on from the sale to Tata Ford regards JLR as a competitor, not a kind of preferred customer.

Fret not, though, if you believe the hype from Autocar and the BBC in the last 24 hrs, JLR will have a world-beating new engine facility of their own up and running soon, producing world-beating 4 cyl miracle engines, petrol and diesel, of which I'm sure JLR's world-class engineers will easily manage to top Ford's 300-350 hp EcoBoost, or, if Autocar is to be believed - stop sniggering! - will even outdo Mercedes' new 2 litre 360 hp engine, with over 180 PS/litre from their new 'Hotfire'.

An Audi thread and he's off slating JLR again.

[ingotree]

Audi needs to be careful what they slap RS badges on as they are diluting the RS brand. Remember when the RS2 and then B5 RS4 came out they we so otherworldly and special, what a true Audi RS should be. BMW have the same issue with their M division with cars like the X6M

[Banjo47]

benzpassion said:

thanks for clearing up what I said, was what I said.

JLR haven't a snowball's chance in hell of getting Ford's performance developments of its EcoBoost engines, 2 litre, 2.3 litre, or otherwise.

The LRX/Evoque was conceived pre-2007, before Ford got shot to Tata. The supply of Ford 4 cyl petrols and PSA/Ford 4 cyl diesels was a legacy matter.

Ford has ramped up production of the new Fusion and new Escape since the introduction of the Evoque in 2011. Ford US sells around 4-500,000 Fusions and Escapes annually currently in the U.S., most of which have the 2 litre EcoBoost. Ford therefore needs most of the capacity of the Valencia plant for its own.

Almost five years on from the sale to Tata Ford regards JLR as a competitor, not a kind of preferred customer.

Fret not, though, if you believe the hype from Autocar and the BBC in the last 24 hrs, JLR will have a world-beating new engine facility of their own up and running soon, producing world-beating 4 cyl miracle engines, petrol and diesel, of which I'm sure JLR's world-class engineers will easily manage to top Ford's 300-350 hp EcoBoost, or, if Autocar is to be believed - stop sniggering! - will even outdo Mercedes' new 2 litre 360 hp engine, with over 180 PS/litre from their new 'Hotfire'.

Hurrah! He's back! Cant wait to see these new JLR engines and I will just have to try to stop fretting and sniggering meantime.