RE: Golf GTD announced

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dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

149 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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ohtari said:
Glosphil said:
Simon Bags said:
ohtari said:
Way, way north of 3k/year. You'd end up killing a diesel engine in no time with those journeys. I would suggest 15k+ to really make proper use of a diesel powerplant.

Besides, why would you want a diesel? For the money you could have a nicely specced Focus ST
Had a feeling it wouldn't be good for what I need. Focus ST? Funny you mention that, I'm already in one, on a '55 plate that is. Not sure I like it being a 5 door though.

Thanks for info though.

Bags.
Engage the child locks on the rear doors and then you can still have the fun of having to get out of the car to let your friends in and out of the rear seats.
hehe

I think the trick with the new ones is to go for the estate, in a subtle colour. It looks better (imo) and should keep the boy racers at bay. Once mountune get their act together, it would be a fairly potent sleeper smile
How is something with a bodykit, big wheels and a with a central exhaust a sleeper? You can spot an ST a mile of which to me means is the complete opposite to a sleeper buuut I would go for the estate in the ST aswell, reemphasizing the other thread going on at the moment.

sheppane

17 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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GroundEffect said:
funkyrobot said:
I still can't get my head around a diesel Golf costing £25k.

smilesmashwobble
£25k is £20k 10 years ago.
The fact that Sterling has depreciated by about 26% against the Euro in the last 10 years makes it especially painful to buy pretty much any premium car, because these manufactures don't have to give you lots of incentives like say French manufactures. Get used to it, Sterling is not going up materially any time soon.

Matt UK

17,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Motorrad said:
May I be the first to suggest buying a used 911 instead?
Well said, sir.

I would like to build on this from an entire fleet perspective - for £25k you could have:

A lovely BMW e38 740i for wafting
A 90's K-series Caterham for hooning
A Series 3 Land Rover for green laning
A K10 Micra for slumming to the station each morning

And so on and so forth..

Limpet

6,320 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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The thing about a diesel Golf is it's a car you buy with your head. You never lust after one. You buy one, run it for many many years for beer money, and then you sell it on and get rather more of your money back than if you'd bought a Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc. In the meantime you can park it anywhere and drive it anywhere without attracting any attention of any sort. You never love it, but you do grow quite attached to it because it's so damn good at what it does.

We've got a 2003 mk4 GT TDI 130. We keep thinking of parting with it, but it's reliable, economical, good to drive in a lazy, torquey, long legged sort of way, and it just doesn't look 10 years old. Neither of us lie awake thinking about it, neither of us would think of getting up early to drive it, but it goes from A to B with no drama, does 48 mpg round the houses, 60 on the motorway, and never seems to need anything apart from an annual oil and filter change and consumables.

If this mk7 does the same thing, it's a winner, and yes I would probably buy one.

Edited by Limpet on Thursday 21st February 16:52

Matt UK

17,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Limpet said:
The thing about a diesel Golf is it's a car you buy with your head. You never lust after one. You buy one, run it for many many years for beer money, and then you sell it on and get rather more of your money back than if you'd bought a Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc. In the meantime you can park it anywhere and drive it anywhere without attracting any attention of any sort. You never love it, but you do grow quite attached to it because it's so damn good at what it does.

We've got a 2002 mk4 GT TDI 130. We keep thinking of parting with it, but it's reliable, economical, good to drive in a lazy, torquey, long legged sort of way, and it just doesn't look 10 years old. Neither of us lie awake thinking about it, neither of us would think of getting up early to drive it, but it goes from A to B with no drama, does 48 mpg round the houses, 60 on the motorway, and never seems to need anything apart from an annual oil and filter change and consumables.

If this mk7 does the same thing, it's a winner, and yes I would probably buy one.
That sums it all up rather well, I think.

daydotz

1,742 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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the photos need a disclaimer if you fancy the led drl featured in the photos they are not available in the uk market biglaugh

although this is PH no one likes drl of any type laugh


drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Matt UK said:
Limpet said:
The thing about a diesel Golf is it's a car you buy with your head. You never lust after one. You buy one, run it for many many years for beer money, and then you sell it on and get rather more of your money back than if you'd bought a Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc. In the meantime you can park it anywhere and drive it anywhere without attracting any attention of any sort. You never love it, but you do grow quite attached to it because it's so damn good at what it does.

We've got a 2002 mk4 GT TDI 130. We keep thinking of parting with it, but it's reliable, economical, good to drive in a lazy, torquey, long legged sort of way, and it just doesn't look 10 years old. Neither of us lie awake thinking about it, neither of us would think of getting up early to drive it, but it goes from A to B with no drama, does 48 mpg round the houses, 60 on the motorway, and never seems to need anything apart from an annual oil and filter change and consumables.

If this mk7 does the same thing, it's a winner, and yes I would probably buy one.
That sums it all up rather well, I think.
I am inclined to agree and I do wonder why it is this a news worthy story on the country's largest 'speed matters' forum,when in effect what has been described is the automotive equivalent of magnolia paint. Actually, not magnolia, beige. Automotive beige with the wiff of derv.

AdamRallye

26 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Motorrad said:
May I be the first to suggest buying a used 911 instead?

I'd also like to get mention of the Nazis out of the way nice and early as well.

Other than that there isn't much to say is there?
Pretty stupid remark!

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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No doubt fairly competent but I would mourn spending £25k of my own money on one. It wouldn't fill me with joy, walking out the door and seeing it on the driveway after parting with the cash.

Matt UK

17,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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drivin_me_nuts said:
Matt UK said:
Limpet said:
The thing about a diesel Golf is it's a car you buy with your head. You never lust after one. You buy one, run it for many many years for beer money, and then you sell it on and get rather more of your money back than if you'd bought a Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc. In the meantime you can park it anywhere and drive it anywhere without attracting any attention of any sort. You never love it, but you do grow quite attached to it because it's so damn good at what it does.

We've got a 2002 mk4 GT TDI 130. We keep thinking of parting with it, but it's reliable, economical, good to drive in a lazy, torquey, long legged sort of way, and it just doesn't look 10 years old. Neither of us lie awake thinking about it, neither of us would think of getting up early to drive it, but it goes from A to B with no drama, does 48 mpg round the houses, 60 on the motorway, and never seems to need anything apart from an annual oil and filter change and consumables.

If this mk7 does the same thing, it's a winner, and yes I would probably buy one.
That sums it all up rather well, I think.
I am inclined to agree and I do wonder why it is this a news worthy story on the country's largest 'speed matters' forum,when in effect what has been described is the automotive equivalent of magnolia paint. Actually, not magnolia, beige. Automotive beige with the wiff of derv.
Well, if I was feeling generous towards the good chaps at PH Towers, I would say that the whole article was written in order to promote worthy-but-dull cheap company car transport in a bid to justify a rip-snorting monster in the garage, ready for Saturday mornings... Maybe?

PH article said:
the GTD brings a useful turn of speed for sensible shoes Monday to Friday transport. Which you can, with luck, exorcise at the weekend with something noisy and more fun..

redroadster

1,745 posts

233 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Faster than a renault clio 2.o sport from a to b in real world traffic all that torque murders the renault i tested one so i know i am right ! .

hyperblue

2,802 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Fire99 said:
No doubt fairly competent but I would mourn spending £25k of my own money on one. It wouldn't fill me with joy, walking out the door and seeing it on the driveway after parting with the cash.
I'd bet that hardly anyone does spend £25k cash on one. As a company car, it makes sense.

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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hyperblue said:
I'd bet that hardly anyone does spend £25k cash on one. As a company car, it makes sense.
More than likely but in that case, the story loses merit since I'm less fussy with ultimate specs with a company car (other than low tax)

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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AdamRallye said:
Pretty stupid remark!
It would appear irony often goes unnoticed.

I was merely getting these comments in before someone else as they are entirely predictable on a thread about diesel golfs.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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I'm still waiting for PH to write an article about the 2013 model year Hyundai i30 diesel.

It's just as interesting.

So why do you only write about Golfs, PH??

Are only VAG products OK with the cool kids?

Lordglenmorangie

3,053 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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GroundEffect said:
£25k is £20k 10 years ago.
I have a 02 plate GT mark 4 130tdi the invoice is amongst the paper work £14,000 .

rajkohli81

311 posts

207 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Golfs used to be cars you bought with your head. Now it seems the GT variants are bought with the littler brain rattling around inside your head.

Modern BMWs seem to be a little more head friendly at present re: efficiency/performance..

Impending Mk7 GTI vs M135i might solidify the argument highlighted by the GTD vs 125d.

31mph

1,308 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Hellbound said:
For 95% of the time, this is all the car I'd ever need.
+1

SR06

749 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Ive just sold an e90 M3. Only do 4k per year and just can't stretch its legs where I live. Picked up a low mileage Mk6 GTD the other week. Loving the torque, even sounds good and the chassis it spot on. Dont miss the M3 at all. Went back to diesel as missed the linear torque of my Alpina D3.

Matt UK

17,727 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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SR06 said:
Ive just sold an e90 M3. Only do 4k per year and just can't stretch its legs where I live. Picked up a low mileage Mk6 GTD the other week. Loving the torque, even sounds good and the chassis it spot on. Dont miss the M3 at all. Went back to diesel as missed the linear torque of my Alpina D3.
Is it the diesel you miss or the turbo delivery? Would a petrol turbo have given you the feeling you are looking for?