RE: VW confirms XL1 production

RE: VW confirms XL1 production

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LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Here's something similar-ish they had a go at 26-odd years ago !!

http://drivingphilosopher.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/t...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Wow you've got to hand it to VW if they really make that! Must have taken some balls to put that infront of the board........... Pretty niche car, but and it's a big but, if the price is right, and it gets a trendy/cult following, which with that styling it might, it could well be the new "prius" for the Hollywood A lister to be seen in!

P4ROT

1,219 posts

193 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Finally, an eco car which is actually interesting!

Dr G

15,178 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Wow you've got to hand it to VW if they really make that! Must have taken some balls to put that infront of the board........... Pretty niche car, but and it's a big but, if the price is right, and it gets a trendy/cult following, which with that styling it might, it could well be the new "prius" for the Hollywood A lister to be seen in!
It's going to be a 30-40k car for sure; I like that VW just sometimes go 'fuggit' and build things simply because they can.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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amazing technology.....ste looking car...honestly it makes me feel a little sick.....

ajprice

27,490 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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They're engineering the motor from this into an up! model too, aiming for it to be ready in 18 months.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/vw-hybrid-...


JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Froomee said:
I think in real terms this will struggle to do anymore than about 100mpg or so.
I think it actually will be the opposite. A struggle to do significantly less.

It's pretty much impossible for me to do a sub 60mpg tank driving my Insight normally for the road- 85 leptons for example on a rush day.



louiebaby

10,651 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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rhinochopig said:
As I said, imagine a Dacia version of the insight with a small diesel lump and none of the hyrbid tech; cheap as chips and 100mpg.
A cheap, simple, comfortable family car with good MPG would be something I want on my drive. Each manufacturer should build one, since there are enough serial Peugeot buyers, for instance, who just buy a new version of the same car they've had.

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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louiebaby said:
rhinochopig said:
As I said, imagine a Dacia version of the insight with a small diesel lump and none of the hyrbid tech; cheap as chips and 100mpg.
A cheap, simple, comfortable family car with good MPG would be something I want on my drive. Each manufacturer should build one, since there are enough serial Peugeot buyers, for instance, who just buy a new version of the same car they've had.
Tata Nano?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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MX7 said:
Tata Nano?
Something that I could take the family on holiday in, as well as pop to the tip and take the dog out in. For the wife to drive normally, of course...

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Cant image how much the material cost for this will be, Im guessing it will be priced much like a Veyron as a loss leader and hence an expression of engineering ability just at the other end of the performance envelope!

CFRP Anti roll bars, magnesium wheels and carbon ceramic matrix dont shout affordable commuter to me. Seems the camera and screens instead of door mirrors is progressing aswell.



I WANT ONE!



Edited by JonnyVTEC on Thursday 21st February 17:52

muthaducka

381 posts

184 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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ajprice said:
They're engineering the motor from this into an up! model too, aiming for it to be ready in 18 months.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/vw-hybrid-...

The dash looks like it's moved over from the VW UP so that makes sense. I've been waiting for car manufacturers to actually do the obvious, not just a half ass evolution, drip feeding us. That setup in the up would be great as an a-b car and I bet they would shift in volumes at the right price point. Really put the twitchers on the mini, a1, etc. I'm looking forward to BMW's cooling looking mini car - if it ever arrives. It's scheduled for 2014-15, something like that.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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TheRoadWarrior said:
That looks great (The concept as well as the styling)

It'll never average 300mpg though; I'd imagine more like 60-80 over a tank.
Based on what?!

You can get 60mpg out of just about any car you want if you put a small-ish diesel engine in it.

And this car is small, light, aerodynamically optimised for max-mpg.

I'd be shocked if it couldn't beat something like a BMW 116d for mpg.

dandare

957 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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alangla said:
My first though looking at the rear was more Karmann Ghia than Insight -



No?
Could be. They're built at the same factory.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

190 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Love it.

To the people saying "Why isn't it this?" or "why isn't it that?"

It's purely a feasibility exercise. A large-scale testbed for a number of new technologies that VW want to test, and early-adopters are prepared to pay to do the testing!

The cheap, mass-production version will come later. But thank God someone is doing it. I can't wait to see the finished thing.

dandare

957 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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The article said: "Hmmm... now, what does the XL1 remind us of? Oh yes, that’s right – the first-gen Honda Insight wore the same tapered profile and covered rear wheels, for obvious aerodynamic reasons."

I say: "Hmmm... I think Citroen did this in the 1950s with the DS, and then the SM, CX and finally the XM"

JD

2,777 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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I really don't understand why there aren't more plug-in-Hybrids

It just makes so much more sense to me than a full electric car

All you would need is full electric range of 20 miles and it would be perfect

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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dandare said:
The article said: "Hmmm... now, what does the XL1 remind us of? Oh yes, that’s right – the first-gen Honda Insight wore the same tapered profile and covered rear wheels, for obvious aerodynamic reasons."

I say: "Hmmm... I think Citroen did this in the 1950s with the DS, and then the SM, CX and finally the XM"
Can you see any other similarities between the Insight and the XL1?

JackP1

1,269 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Why couldnt they just make this instead?


71tuscan

138 posts

182 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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795kgs? Perfect! I'll have one with an LS7!