RE: VW confirms XL1 production
Discussion
JackP1 said:
Why couldnt they just make this instead?
Because the TT already has a monopoly on that "kind" of car... VAG would be shooting themselves in the foot.Nice looking car though.
Sadly I don't do the miles to make this worth while, but if I fancied doing some massive trips I'd probs have one, especially when my Z4 M is getting me 24mpg at best
t yet?Low Weight isn't the be-all and end-all in terms of ultimate fuel economy when you have a system capable of re-capturing the vehicles KE. Much more important is Total drag and overall powertrain efficiency.
Hopefully, by sharing the drivetrain with the UP, and nicking bits like Dash/HVAC/ICE etc from exisiting platforms, they might be able to get the volumes up and the costs down. The more exotic body is always going to cost more than say an UP however, so it will be interesting to see how many people just buy the hybrid UP instead (which won't have such as good economy due to the greater drag) but will almost certainly be signifacntly cheaper to buy in the first place.
Hopefully, by sharing the drivetrain with the UP, and nicking bits like Dash/HVAC/ICE etc from exisiting platforms, they might be able to get the volumes up and the costs down. The more exotic body is always going to cost more than say an UP however, so it will be interesting to see how many people just buy the hybrid UP instead (which won't have such as good economy due to the greater drag) but will almost certainly be signifacntly cheaper to buy in the first place.
According to Car&Driver: ESTIMATED BASE PRICE (EUROPE): $50,000
More here: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/volkswagen-xl1...
More here: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/volkswagen-xl1...
this looks like an interesting prospect. I suspect the retail price will be somewhere in the region of £35-£45k.
It will be interesting to see how that CFRP is manufactured. As of January 2015 all new cars (made in member states of the EU) will need to be 95% recyclable, even now it is 85%.
which begs the question- how have they made the resin recyclable? I have heard of types of resin where you can burn it away to reclaim the carbon, but would that be enough....?
The same goes for the forthcoming BMW i series of cars too.
It will also be interesting to see how refined this is. It's only a small car- so will those people who do mega miles really want to buy them? Small cars on motorways generally aren't as nice to drive as larger cars. 15 years ago you wouldn't even consider using a hatchback as a motorway mile eater- now though the likes of the BMW 1 series, golf, C4, megane etc are all capable, comfortable cruisers- but this is another couple of steps again.
It will be interesting to see how that CFRP is manufactured. As of January 2015 all new cars (made in member states of the EU) will need to be 95% recyclable, even now it is 85%.
which begs the question- how have they made the resin recyclable? I have heard of types of resin where you can burn it away to reclaim the carbon, but would that be enough....?
The same goes for the forthcoming BMW i series of cars too.
It will also be interesting to see how refined this is. It's only a small car- so will those people who do mega miles really want to buy them? Small cars on motorways generally aren't as nice to drive as larger cars. 15 years ago you wouldn't even consider using a hatchback as a motorway mile eater- now though the likes of the BMW 1 series, golf, C4, megane etc are all capable, comfortable cruisers- but this is another couple of steps again.
Genuinely interesting, though I am amazed it has taken manufacturers this long to come up with something like this. Its not like any of this is new is it.
A slimline low drag shell with an existing 3L engine could easily crack 200mpg
I'm sure this is something the kit car world should be coming up with
A slimline low drag shell with an existing 3L engine could easily crack 200mpg
I'm sure this is something the kit car world should be coming up with
cptsideways said:
Genuinely interesting, though I am amazed it has taken manufacturers this long to come up with something like this. Its not like any of this is new is it.
A slimline low drag shell with an existing 3L engine could easily crack 200mpg
I'm sure this is something the kit car world should be coming up with
IT DID!!A slimline low drag shell with an existing 3L engine could easily crack 200mpg
I'm sure this is something the kit car world should be coming up with
comes in the form of this:
powered by a 2cv engine
apparently was virtually silent- (according to someone who has been in it at speed and the engine stopped in neutral)
was designed and built in Ireland out of wood.
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