RE: Nismo GT-R confirmed
Discussion
See, I've never sat in any Skyline, let alone one with the red 'R'.
I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
Loplop said:
See, I've never sat in any Skyline, let alone one with the red 'R'.
I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
Having driven a R34 GT-R and the new GT-R I doubt it would. They're great to drive.I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
Err haven't they already made a GT3 competitor? It was called the GT-R V-spec and was released in 2010. It had no more power but it was 60kg lighter (despite Mizuno, the GTR creator insisting that heavier=faster ), had carbon brakes and better suspension, oh and the not inconsiderable price tag of about £115k.
It seems however that everyone including Nissan would rather forget about this version of the GTR as reviews weren't exactly glowing citing it as being very twitchy and too expensive for the changes on offer over the standard car.
Let's hope that this SECOND stab they have at a GT3 competitor is better. Will be interesting to see if they decrease the weight.
It seems however that everyone including Nissan would rather forget about this version of the GTR as reviews weren't exactly glowing citing it as being very twitchy and too expensive for the changes on offer over the standard car.
Let's hope that this SECOND stab they have at a GT3 competitor is better. Will be interesting to see if they decrease the weight.
Guvernator said:
Err haven't they already made a GT3 competitor? It was called the GT-R V-spec and was released in 2010. It had no more power but it was 60kg lighter (despite Mizuno, the GTR creator insisting that heavier=faster ), had carbon brakes and better suspension, oh and the not inconsiderable price tag of about £115k.
It seems however that everyone including Nissan would rather forget about this version of the GTR as reviews weren't exactly glowing citing it as being very twitchy and too expensive for the changes on offer over the standard car.
Let's hope that this SECOND stab they have at a GT3 competitor is better. Will be interesting to see if they decrease the weight.
It's better to look at it like this:It seems however that everyone including Nissan would rather forget about this version of the GTR as reviews weren't exactly glowing citing it as being very twitchy and too expensive for the changes on offer over the standard car.
Let's hope that this SECOND stab they have at a GT3 competitor is better. Will be interesting to see if they decrease the weight.
The Standard R35 - 911 Turbo
R35 Spec - V - 911 Turbo S
If you look at past nomenclature an 'N1' R35 would be a GT3 Competitor, the original R32 V-Spec was actually heavier but had wider tires and a modified 4WD system, I suspect the Spec - V's weight saving had more to do with contemporary culture.
Loplop said:
It's better to look at it like this:
The Standard R35 - 911 Turbo
R35 Spec - V - 911 Turbo S
If you look at past nomenclature an 'N1' R35 would be a GT3 Competitor, the original R32 V-Spec was actually heavier but had wider tires and a modified 4WD system, I suspect the Spec - V's weight saving had more to do with contemporary culture.
Hmm you are probably right although I'd probably compare the R35 V-Spec to an GT2\GT2 RS as I believe they removed the rear seats and it was a bit too hardcore to be compared with the "softer" Turbo all many mags seems to compare it to the GT3 RS at the time too.The Standard R35 - 911 Turbo
R35 Spec - V - 911 Turbo S
If you look at past nomenclature an 'N1' R35 would be a GT3 Competitor, the original R32 V-Spec was actually heavier but had wider tires and a modified 4WD system, I suspect the Spec - V's weight saving had more to do with contemporary culture.
Still interested to see what they do with this new one and what the price tag will be. The great thing about the standard GT-R is that it's such a performance bargain compared to it's competitors but when you start to see 6 figure prices tags attached to them, I think they start to loose their appeal somewhat.
hairykrishna said:
Loplop said:
See, I've never sat in any Skyline, let alone one with the red 'R'.
I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
Having driven a R34 GT-R and the new GT-R I doubt it would. They're great to drive.I hated Porsche's, they seemed bland to my young eyes. Then I went out in one and it just made sense, I'd have one over a Ferrari or Lambo every day.
I'm scared that going out in a GT-R will have the opposite effect and completely obliterate those dreams that Gran Turismo implanted into my brain well over a decade ago.
wheedler said:
It will need to wipe the floor with the gt3 to be taken seriously or it shall need to be a lot cheaper and as good
I don't think there is a huge crossover of the markets for the two cars. I suspect that the people choosing GT3s do so for many reasons not related to how quick the two cars are around the Ring (brand loyalty, image, looks, RWD, manual, etc). The GT-R is already much better value than the GT3 and technically perhaps more impressive. Making it more so is unlikely to get more Porsche drivers to swap. The first R35 GT-R whupped the GT3 a few years ago - according to a certain Mr C Harris ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85e87Ac_Ndk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85e87Ac_Ndk
wheedler said:
Ex Boy Racer said:
0-60 time blah blah 'ring time blah blah half the price of a 911 blah blah.
I'll have the Porsche thanks
It will need to wipe the floor with the gt3 to be taken seriously or it shall need to be a lot cheaper and as goodI'll have the Porsche thanks
A transmission which is truly track friendly and not boiling its fluid would be essential for it to compete with the GT3.
Bayside blue Nismo GT-R anyone ?
Loplop said:
Raitzi said:
Is it going to be 2wd like most racing GT-R's?
I doubt it.Racing GT-Rs aren't actually GT-Rs, they're just reshell'd 350z JGTC Cars.
Looks like a GTR in these pics...
http://www.sumopower.com/Gallery/49/Sumo%20Power%2...
wheedler said:
Ex Boy Racer said:
0-60 time blah blah 'ring time blah blah half the price of a 911 blah blah.
I'll have the Porsche thanks
It will need to wipe the floor with the gt3 to be taken seriously or it shall need to be a lot cheaper and as goodI'll have the Porsche thanks
Guvernator said:
Loplop said:
It's better to look at it like this:
The Standard R35 - 911 Turbo
R35 Spec - V - 911 Turbo S
If you look at past nomenclature an 'N1' R35 would be a GT3 Competitor, the original R32 V-Spec was actually heavier but had wider tires and a modified 4WD system, I suspect the Spec - V's weight saving had more to do with contemporary culture.
Hmm you are probably right although I'd probably compare the R35 V-Spec to an GT2\GT2 RS as I believe they removed the rear seats and it was a bit too hardcore to be compared with the "softer" Turbo all many mags seems to compare it to the GT3 RS at the time too.The Standard R35 - 911 Turbo
R35 Spec - V - 911 Turbo S
If you look at past nomenclature an 'N1' R35 would be a GT3 Competitor, the original R32 V-Spec was actually heavier but had wider tires and a modified 4WD system, I suspect the Spec - V's weight saving had more to do with contemporary culture.
Still interested to see what they do with this new one and what the price tag will be. The great thing about the standard GT-R is that it's such a performance bargain compared to it's competitors but when you start to see 6 figure prices tags attached to them, I think they start to loose their appeal somewhat.
Olivera said:
GTR Owner said:
I got to say I agree. The overall performance has to be either significantly greater for similar cost or the price has to be kept down.
I'm curious - why do you believe that to be the case?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff