RE: McLaren P1 pricing and performance

RE: McLaren P1 pricing and performance

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chazwozza

729 posts

186 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Too busy at the front as already mentioned. Still, I can't afford one anyway so it's not a decision I have to be troubled by!
Can't help thinking the interior looks way too mp4...

MrTappets

881 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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I presume the limited top speed is so they can make other dependent systems smaller/lighter

mrclav

1,296 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Harry H said:
If I had the dosh, which I don't and desperately wanted a McLaren I'd buy it's much cheaper brother. More than enough car for 99.99999% of even the super talented drivers found on here and give the rest to charity.
Money to charity? Really? If you really knew about the way most charities are run, you'd realise that probably wouldn't be the best idea. Effectively, you could very well find yourself lining the pockets of people who'd use your well-intentioned donations to do things like, well, buy this car...


Edited by mrclav on Tuesday 26th February 12:32

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Harry H said:
Absolutely pointless. If I had the dosh, which I don't and desperately wanted a McLaren I'd buy it's much cheaper brother. More than enough car for 99.99999% of even the super talented drivers found on here and give the rest to charity.
Which, ironically, would probably go some way towards the head of said charity buying a McLaren P1, given the amount that many of them earn.

Amazing car, anyhow. I love that by the sounds of things, every single bit of bodywork is there specifically because it has an aero or cooling purpose.

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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goron59 said:
fking fantastic. Dog's bks.
This.

Although the cynic in me says there will be more to come with 'evo' versions in regards to top speed.

WCZ

10,529 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Harry H said:
Soooo, boring. Yep it's super fast, but so what. Way quicker than anyone could possibly exploit on the road and there's loads better track kit for a tenth of the price.
it's super fast, that's the point of the car...!

and it's going to make an incredible track car too.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Lordbenny said:
Mmmmm BMW M3 urine yellow. Nice! vomit
I'd see a urologist if I were you! wink

BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

147 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Loved the F1, big fan of the MP4-12C and even liked the SLR but this does nothing for me.

I don't really understand why though...

For that money I'd be looking at Pagani or Koenigsegg, or just buy an Aventador and an F40.

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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nickfrog said:
GroundEffect said:
There'll be a technical reason behind 217mph.
It's 350 km/h. I reckon they just chose a round(ish) figure.
I'd go with tyres.

SWoll

18,397 posts

258 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Harry H said:
Soooo, boring. Yep it's super fast, but so what. Way quicker than anyone could possibly exploit on the road and there's loads better track kit for a tenth of the price.

It's no better looking that a host of other "Super Cars" that are a 3rd of the price as well.

Absolutely pointless. If I had the dosh, which I don't and desperately wanted a McLaren I'd buy it's much cheaper brother. More than enough car for 99.99999% of even the super talented drivers found on here and give the rest to charity.
I supose there has to be someone on every Hyper-car thread who completely misses the point, but taking the moral high ground is an interesting twist.

Shewie

553 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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PH said:
0-62mph will take “less than three seconds”, 0-125mph “under seven seconds”, and 0-186mph will come up in “less than 17 seconds”. Top speed, meanwhile, will be electronically limited to 217mph.
Quite quick then!!!yikes

Peloton25

986 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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[quote=Dazed & Confused]375?

I thought they were making 500. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of buyers are holding off committing until they've seen Ferrari's hand.

I'm not sure what to make of Mclaren blinking first in terms of full revealing of specs. Do they know something about the Ferrari which means they need to try and get P1 buyers before the F150 is announced?

This way all the buzz at Geneva is going to be about the Ferrari.

Edited by Dazed & Confused on Tuesday 26th February 11:25

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Actually from the start they said they would make no more than 500 and would judge the market reaction to the car before settling on a final figure. Gone are the days when you can show off your new supercar at a motor show and have 1,000 deposit checks arrive in the mail the following week, unless you are Ferrari who will have already sold out their supercar prior to the motor show anyway.

McLaren have been ahead of the game the whole way through this process. Ferrari have barely talked about their car and don't seem to intend to until Geneva. McLaren did not wish to wait that long - in fact they were ready to go toe-to-toe in Paris with Ferrari until the Ferrari went on ice for another 6 months of development. Let's face it though - Ferrari don't need to publicize the details of their cars to get people to buy them. They said they'd build 500 this time and there are reports of at least 550 strongly interested customers. McLaren will probably benefit from some of Ferrari's cast offs, but generally speaking the people Ferrari have chosen to buy their car will, and some of them will also get P1s or 918s or all three.

Ferrari probably wanted to ensure they'd have the spotlight in Geneva, and it hasn't prevented McLaren from securing enough deposits for the P1 to consider closing the order book as has been reported by several sources.

>8^)
ER

garypotter

1,503 posts

150 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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"I wonder if they'll take a finished XP P1 somewhere for an actual vmax run minus the limiter as they did with the F1."

I have this little voice in my head telling me that it was not Mclaren that went for the original high speed test in the F1, I think it was a privately owned car doing the first 217 run, when that was beaten I think it was about '96 when Mclaren went for their official fatsest run.

I could be writing a load of "Daily Mail"

P4ROT

1,219 posts

193 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Harry H said:
If I had the dosh...give the rest to charity.
Love it when people say they would give large sums of money to charity IF they had it.

TIGA84

5,207 posts

231 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Are they going to go racing with it like they did the F1 do we know?


JayEll

133 posts

136 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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am sure if I saw it in the flesh, my jaw would drop just because of what it is and how extravagant that styling is. But, it doesn't immediately scream "bedroom wall poster car" to me.

wotnot

383 posts

174 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Loved the F1, big fan of the MP4-12C and even liked the SLR but this does nothing for me.

I don't really understand why though...

For that money I'd be looking at Pagani or Koenigsegg, or just buy an Aventador and an F40.
Strangely, I was thinking almost exactly the same thing, particularly with regard to alternatives.
Having said that, I would imagine that for buyers in this rarified atmosphere (sadly not including me!) the decision is simply yes or no; 'alternative' tends to mean 'as well as'.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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I'll take a pair of black ones. I hope McLaren accept pocket lint and buttons.

sgq89

93 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Yeah its pretty cool, but it won't be as good as the Ferrari. It just won't be. And isn't the inside a little drab? I mean I know not everyone likes it all fancy inside, but compare to the Pagani for the same sort of price...perhaps its because McLaren is all about the numbers and not much else. Numbers on their own will never be enough! I'd rather a supermodel than a maths teacher.

JaguarsportXJR

235 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Brutally fast, to be fair. Not exactly pretty, though, is it?

A friend of mine just described it as a training shoe.