RE: Evoque introduces first nine-speed 'box
Discussion
.CraigyMc said:
Weight, size, torque capacity, efficiency, cost...
Not so. A CVT box, even the Toroidal and Hydrostatic types, are smaller, lighter and much more efficient than a 'normal' autobox. Torque handling is becoming less of an issue too. Nissan channel 245+hp through theirs and the Hydrostatic system has been used in commercial applications for years. A few more years and more money could see CVT becomming the choice. After all, no autobox can continually vary the output speed in relation to load like a CVT. The more gears they add the more complexity so when does the point come when its time to change? One really good unit could change public perception again.But after saying that, I'm one of the old school (33 almost!) thats saddened by the lack of enthusiasm for the manual shift involving a lever and pedal. I sold my BMW 130i with its 6 speed auto with paddels for a Chimaera with a stick. If the BMW had been manual I may have considered keeping it.
But after saying that, I'm one of the old school (33 almost!) thats saddened by the lack of enthusiasm for the manual shift involving a lever and pedal. I sold my BMW 130i with its 6 speed auto with paddels for a Chimaera with a stick. If the BMW had been manual I may have considered keeping it.
After lurking for so long I feel forced to comment as nobody so far seems to have raised the following point:
I like to use the revs in my engines. I Like to hear the engine note change as it rises through the revs, and I like to feel the torque change as the engine climbs out of the low rev dull spot, through the sweet spot and over the torque peak, before it changes up / I change up (for auto / manual boxes- the principle is the same.)
The more ratios, the smaller the gap between each, meaning you don't get to explore the rev range nearly so much.
It may be more efficient/refined/smooth/reliable, but where's the fun in that?
I am amazed that nobody on this website has mentioned this.
I like to use the revs in my engines. I Like to hear the engine note change as it rises through the revs, and I like to feel the torque change as the engine climbs out of the low rev dull spot, through the sweet spot and over the torque peak, before it changes up / I change up (for auto / manual boxes- the principle is the same.)
The more ratios, the smaller the gap between each, meaning you don't get to explore the rev range nearly so much.
It may be more efficient/refined/smooth/reliable, but where's the fun in that?
I am amazed that nobody on this website has mentioned this.
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