Whats the best diesel Land Rover ?
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SimonV8ster said:
Budget would be about 3-4K. Not a custom build but want to find something that has something that has been upgraded a little, like better shocks/springs/tyres. I won't want to do proper off roading but will no doubt face a load of gravel/dusty roads, have to cross a few streams/rivers, broken tarmac.
will carry some spares that I can deal with myself but certainly not gearboxes/diffs !!
just looking at those Mitsubishi L200's, look quite cabale and various options of crew cab/pickup, seem to be reasonably economical too.
I didn't mean carry spare diff/gearbox, I meant rebuild them before you go so you know they're in good nick, however, budget won't allow that really (unless you're good with spanners).will carry some spares that I can deal with myself but certainly not gearboxes/diffs !!
just looking at those Mitsubishi L200's, look quite cabale and various options of crew cab/pickup, seem to be reasonably economical too.
Where abouts are you heading, as in reality its not actually that far away. 6k miles gets you to mongolia & in half as many weeks.
Though I understand in a LR you'd need to do a FULL mechanical preparation do that many miles
where in reality I can do that many miles in 3 weeks & between oil changes without looking at my Landcruiser.
Though I understand in a LR you'd need to do a FULL mechanical preparation do that many miles
where in reality I can do that many miles in 3 weeks & between oil changes without looking at my Landcruiser.I do agree with the comment that a 300Tdi Discovery is better value than a 90 or 110, but you'd get electric addenda such as windows and mirrors and locking that, if absolute reliability is the key, you may wish to avoid for simplicities sake.
It's also unlikely that your budget will allow you to prepare the vehicle much for the trip. You'd need to make sure it's had a full service as a bare minimum and that all oils have been changed, leaks attended to (surprisingly, they can leak oil on occasion...), wheel bearings and UJ's are in good order and so on. I'd get the intercooler cleaned out and the cooling system flushed through as well.
Budget also for a simple spares kit of bearings, hub flanges, UJ's, spare hose or a hose repair kit, fuses, oils, etc. You may never need them but will be very thankful if you ever do! Some parts places do these on a sale-or-return basis.
The great thing about a 90 or 110 is their ease of DIY. They're so easy to take apart and put back together.
My 110, fully loaded with four of us, a roofrack, large Cooper STT tyres, Discovery gearing and a highly-tuned but reliable 300Tdi regularly gets 26mpg-plus on overseas trips when cruising at an easy 70mph.
It's also unlikely that your budget will allow you to prepare the vehicle much for the trip. You'd need to make sure it's had a full service as a bare minimum and that all oils have been changed, leaks attended to (surprisingly, they can leak oil on occasion...), wheel bearings and UJ's are in good order and so on. I'd get the intercooler cleaned out and the cooling system flushed through as well.
Budget also for a simple spares kit of bearings, hub flanges, UJ's, spare hose or a hose repair kit, fuses, oils, etc. You may never need them but will be very thankful if you ever do! Some parts places do these on a sale-or-return basis.
The great thing about a 90 or 110 is their ease of DIY. They're so easy to take apart and put back together.
My 110, fully loaded with four of us, a roofrack, large Cooper STT tyres, Discovery gearing and a highly-tuned but reliable 300Tdi regularly gets 26mpg-plus on overseas trips when cruising at an easy 70mph.
cptsideways said:
Where abouts are you heading, as in reality its not actually that far away. 6k miles gets you to mongolia & in half as many weeks.
Though I understand in a LR you'd need to do a FULL mechanical preparation do that many miles where in reality I can do that many miles in 3 weeks & between oil changes without looking at my Landcruiser.
Having failed to do that many miles in an LC which was over budget for this thread I disagree, but I admit I was unlucky. Though I understand in a LR you'd need to do a FULL mechanical preparation do that many miles
where in reality I can do that many miles in 3 weeks & between oil changes without looking at my Landcruiser.
Simes110 said:
I do agree with the comment that a 300Tdi Discovery is better value than a 90 or 110, but you'd get electric addenda such as windows and mirrors and locking that, if absolute reliability is the key, you may wish to avoid for simplicities sake.
It's also unlikely that your budget will allow you to prepare the vehicle much for the trip. You'd need to make sure it's had a full service as a bare minimum and that all oils have been changed, leaks attended to (surprisingly, they can leak oil on occasion...), wheel bearings and UJ's are in good order and so on. I'd get the intercooler cleaned out and the cooling system flushed through as well.
Budget also for a simple spares kit of bearings, hub flanges, UJ's, spare hose or a hose repair kit, fuses, oils, etc. You may never need them but will be very thankful if you ever do! Some parts places do these on a sale-or-return basis.
The great thing about a 90 or 110 is their ease of DIY. They're so easy to take apart and put back together.
My 110, fully loaded with four of us, a roofrack, large Cooper STT tyres, Discovery gearing and a highly-tuned but reliable 300Tdi regularly gets 26mpg-plus on overseas trips when cruising at an easy 70mph.
Are you meaning UJ's on the props, because coil spring Landy's like this don't use them anywhere else, they use CV joints.It's also unlikely that your budget will allow you to prepare the vehicle much for the trip. You'd need to make sure it's had a full service as a bare minimum and that all oils have been changed, leaks attended to (surprisingly, they can leak oil on occasion...), wheel bearings and UJ's are in good order and so on. I'd get the intercooler cleaned out and the cooling system flushed through as well.
Budget also for a simple spares kit of bearings, hub flanges, UJ's, spare hose or a hose repair kit, fuses, oils, etc. You may never need them but will be very thankful if you ever do! Some parts places do these on a sale-or-return basis.
The great thing about a 90 or 110 is their ease of DIY. They're so easy to take apart and put back together.
My 110, fully loaded with four of us, a roofrack, large Cooper STT tyres, Discovery gearing and a highly-tuned but reliable 300Tdi regularly gets 26mpg-plus on overseas trips when cruising at an easy 70mph.
A Disco doesn't have to have lots of electrics. My 200Tdi had electric lights and heater fans. And that was it, no centre locking, windy windows, manual sun roofs and so on.
If you do get a LR, check the fuel tank as the protection plate tends to collect crap and they then rot.
And IMO there's little to choose between the 200 or 300 Tdi on the engine/gearbox front but after 95 iirc the 300 Tdi got discs on the rear which are less likely to cause a problem when wading.
And IMO there's little to choose between the 200 or 300 Tdi on the engine/gearbox front but after 95 iirc the 300 Tdi got discs on the rear which are less likely to cause a problem when wading.
Bill said:
If you do get a LR, check the fuel tank as the protection plate tends to collect crap and they then rot.
Guess you mean 90 not Disco as Disco's have plastic tanks.Bill said:
And IMO there's little to choose between the 200 or 300 Tdi on the engine/gearbox front but after 95 iirc the 300 Tdi got discs on the rear which are less likely to cause a problem when wading.
Pretty sure all Tdi's had rear discs on Defenders. All Disco's do.200 and 300 are quite similar, although early 300's did have some recall issues that the 200 never suffered. But 200's are older and likely higher mileages. Quite similar engines overall though.
Late 300 Disco's gained ECU control over the injector pump too, but Defenders didn't.
Bill said:
300bhp/ton said:
Salisbury would be 110 only I believe or a retro fit from earlier vehicles. .
You might want to check that, again I'm pretty sure my 300 Defender had a Salisbury axle. When was the P38? It's possible that's how they did the change to rear discs.http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?...
I'm fairly sure the Salisbury wasn't available on the 90, not unless it was some form of custom order or swapped on later.
Not even the LT85 equipped V8's had a Salisbury. Although you'd find one on a 109 or a Stage 1.
Salisbury:
Regular Rover diff:
The diff housings are quite a different shape.
300bhp/ton said:
Bill said:
300bhp/ton said:
Salisbury would be 110 only I believe or a retro fit from earlier vehicles. .
You might want to check that, again I'm pretty sure my 300 Defender had a Salisbury axle. When was the P38? It's possible that's how they did the change to rear discs.http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?...
I'm fairly sure the Salisbury wasn't available on the 90, not unless it was some form of custom order or swapped on later.
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