RE: SOTW: Peugeot 406 Coupe

RE: SOTW: Peugeot 406 Coupe

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caprirob

263 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Its french. Therefore i'm out.

daveake

687 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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carinaman said:
That's not "stellar" smile. Mine's coming up on 225k, original engine and gearbox 1 new clutch.

Rammy76

1,050 posts

184 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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caprirob said:
Its french. Therefore i'm out.
Normally I'd agree, but I know 2 people that have owned these and both were very reliable.

One was the 2.2 HDI which got to 140000 miles and the only issue was the DPF.

The other one was the 3.0 V6 which never had anything go wrong at all all the way to 130000 miles.

I'd have one if I had the space and money.

carinaman

21,361 posts

173 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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daveake said:
carinaman said:
That's not "stellar" smile. Mine's coming up on 225k, original engine and gearbox 1 new clutch.
They edited the advert after I posted here, it was 1,XXX,XXX miles, over a million miles.

turbo-ww

1,766 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Podie said:
Podie said:
Still a good looking car...
ETA - the 406 coupe, not the dodgy Ferrari
Glad you clarified that....

carinaman

21,361 posts

173 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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daveake said:
That's not "stellar" smile. Mine's coming up on 225k, original engine and gearbox 1 new clutch.
Is it an early one or VVT one?

405dogvan

5,328 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I'd be surprised if rust wasn't going to rear it's head on these now - 406s of this era will already be failing MOTs due to rust around seatbelt and suspension anchorages - it's repairable but it's there.

It's a shed tho - all this talk of changing belts etc. is pointless, you buy it and drive it and when something breaks which makes it unusuable, you scrap it.

If you're looking for a long-term car and/or a restoration project (or you just like to keep your cars mint) you don't buy the cheap ones, you buy the better and more cared-for ones and you keep that up.

SHED: Car use until it dies - ownership is a form of organised retreat - you just ignore the things which don't work (unless they're effortlessly fixable) until you can't ignore them anymore.

As the article says - engine goes bang, put in an HDi unit for less than the cost of the beltswap.

twin SUs

4 posts

136 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I would steer well clear of anything built in France. Pugs, stroens and Rennas are just about the only cars you see broken down at the side of the road these days. Stick to Jap metal and you wont go far wrong.

DHE

4,526 posts

191 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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twin SUs said:
I would steer well clear of anything built in France. Pugs, stroens and Rennas are just about the only cars you see broken down at the side of the road these days. Stick to Jap metal and you wont go far wrong.
The Coupe's were built in Italy, so that makes it ok. Whats the worse that could happen?

The Obeast

99 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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twin SUs said:
I would steer well clear of anything built in France. Pugs, stroens and Rennas are just about the only cars you see broken down at the side of the road these days. Stick to Jap metal and you wont go far wrong.
What a load of rubbish. I've had 2 car that have left me stranded at the side of the road and both were Japanese. Ive had 3 frenchies and no breakdowns. Of course my experience doesn't mean jap cars aren't reliable, but they are far from invincible.

Bezza1969

777 posts

149 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Lovely car, for me the best shed of the year so far! Agree with the previous poster too. Peugeots are generally tough cars. Ok, so the 307/407 had a hideous reliability record, but the taxi drivers always went for the 405/406 which must tell you something about their longevity. Look at all the 306s still going, they're all at least 12 years old now.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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GranCab said:
This a particularly unsuccessful attempt at a Ferrgeot 430/406 ... but I think it blends in well with the 1960's Wimpey Housing Estate setting



... it looks like it's held together with duct tape eek

Edited by GranCab on Friday 8th March 12:07
I feel sorry for the owner... clearly they are mentally challenged in some way.... wouldn't even fool a 5 year old....and a 10 year old could probably make a better attempt at fitting the body kit.

And as for the 406 SOTW, well it just does nothing for me, pretty car but seems awfully dull at the same time. I would rather have a C70 preferably with the T5 engine.

EdM

182 posts

174 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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just lovely...

andrewrob

2,913 posts

191 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I've had a 1999 V6 saloon for 5 years now and to be honest its been great.
The only thing not working out of everything (heated seats and all) is the cruise control and that was only since the clutch was done so I'm assuming something was broken/knocked to cause that.
It ticked over to 142000 miles yesterday and I'm not too worried about it giving up soon.

I've only had to do the usual wear and tear things like clutch, radiator, bushes etc.

twin SUs

4 posts

136 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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The Obeast said:
What a load of rubbish. I've had 2 car that have left me stranded at the side of the road and both were Japanese. Ive had 3 frenchies and no breakdowns. Of course my experience doesn't mean jap cars aren't reliable, but they are far from invincible.

You're talking rubbish mate. French cars are absolute ste. I've owned citroens and pugs and they are atrocious. Fortunately I've never lowered myself to the French governments state owned garbage that calls itself Renault. Only a fool would buy a French car and that's from someone who's family originate from France.

williamp

19,280 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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The only french car i have owned. Lovely to look at, loads of storage space, big boot, comfy, but in 2 litre guise not that fast. Took three of us to lemans in 2001 in comfort

And tes it did have electrical issues. Several of them. I wouldnt buy r242mrx again.

daveake

687 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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carinaman said:
daveake said:
That's not "stellar" smile. Mine's coming up on 225k, original engine and gearbox 1 new clutch.
Is it an early one or VVT one?
Early one - '97. I bought it in 2004 @ 80k miles.

Dave

daveake

687 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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carinaman said:
They edited the advert after I posted here, it was 1,XXX,XXX miles, over a million miles.
Yes, that would have been impressive!

406highlander

182 posts

134 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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twin SUs said:

You're talking rubbish mate. French cars are absolute ste. I've owned citroens and pugs and they are atrocious. Fortunately I've never lowered myself to the French governments state owned garbage that calls itself Renault. Only a fool would buy a French car and that's from someone who's family originate from France.
Utter drivel. Every car I've ever owned has been French (not a conscientious choice, it's basically coincidence). I've had two Mk.1 Clios (a 1.4 3-door and a 1.2 5-door, both of which were utterly reliable if somewhat under-powered), a 1.8 Peugeot 406 saloon (which I had for over two years and was faultless the whole time I owned it - it got written off when some idiot in a van hit it while it was parked), and my current 2.2 406 Coupe. The first Clio I owned had more than 110k on the clock when I got it, had been seriously neglected mechanically, and yet ran brilliantly. The second had more than 80k on the clock. I personally doubled the mileage on the 406 saloon I had, and I've added at least 25k to the clock on the Coupe so far. If French cars are so crap, how do you explain all the tens of thousands of miles they'd all racked up? I didn't just roll them down a big hill, y'know.

I've seen more BMWs and Mercedes-Benzes on the roadside and on the backs of recovery trucks than any other car. None of my French cars were ever riddled with rust (despite the fact that they were all at least 10 years old and had spent their entire lives in the salty sea air in Scotland), which isn't something you can say about a lot of Mercedes either, is it? They're notorious for rusting at the wheel arches. BMWs have well-known rust spots too (behind the rear light clusters is a common one). I've had very little in the way of electrical gremlins with mine either. Bits of trim have mysteriously failed to fall off - maybe because French build quality isn't actually terrible?

If you maintain any car properly (French ones included) they will last a very long time and will be very reliable. I've seen 406 saloons and estates running as taxis that have had well in excess of 250k on the clock and they still run just fine. Just because you've not had much luck with the one or maybe two cheaper Pugs or Citroens you've had doesn't mean to say they're all rubbish.

Also - I've been an AA member since I passed my test, and I've never had to call them out to fix any of my "atrocious" French cars.

BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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twin SUs said:

You're talking rubbish mate. French cars are absolute ste. I've owned citroens and pugs and they are atrocious. Fortunately I've never lowered myself to the French governments state owned garbage that calls itself Renault. Only a fool would buy a French car and that's from someone who's family originate from France.
I'm kind of with you on the Renault comments although there is some I would still consider (Clio 197 for example) because it's a nice car/good to drive, if it broke I would fix it. I would rather that than sit in some Toyota Yaris or something everyday that would totally depress me.

I have owned several Peugeots and had great ownership experiences with them, they have been reliable for me, I am struggling to see how that makes me a fool.

Also worth bearing in mind is the fact that PSA parts prices are pretty reasonable, where as Jap parts prices are verging on robbery if it's dealer only.