RE: Lambo in a spot of bother? Tell Me I'm Wrong
Discussion
Davey S2 said:
Guvernator said:
I still think the Gallardo is one of the best looking supercars of the last decade and it still looks fresh today,
Looks very old and dated to me.A new Gallardo is needed technology wise, but they shouldn't mess with the looks too much.
Schnellmann said:
Interesting article. Does strike me as odd too that the Gallardo hasn't been replaced. Why anyone would buy one new is a mystery to me (if you want one there are plenty secondhand and there are few people that could tell the difference between a new and 3 year old car given the lack of development).
Hopefully the success with the Aventador will embolden VW to allow Lambourghini to speed up development and launch of a successor.
Rather than competing with the Geneva launches, could it be that Lamborghini will use their 50th Anniversary celebrations in May to make a surprise announcement, perhaps the Gallardo replacement?Hopefully the success with the Aventador will embolden VW to allow Lambourghini to speed up development and launch of a successor.
dublet said:
Seems to me they're more eager to please the (many) Chinese millionaires rather than those in their traditional market. Get used to a future where cars won't necessarily be designed for Western eyes.
agreed.all western car designers need to be careful. if the cars they produce don't win universal praise by the press then they won't be lusted after by buyers, no matter what the price. manufacturers of expensive metal are doing fine at the moment because the new markets want these fantasticly reviewed, great driving, cars. to shift you're R&D to making blinged up motors just because they're expensive will be bad for business.
On a point of semantics, macro is the opposite of micro. So a if the LFA was a micro-volume car for Toyota, then the Yaris is a macro-volume car.
In terms of the article, I agree. This screams crowd funded concept car. It's an aventador in a posh frock, and are Lambos really that collectable? Look at the Gallardo Balboni's value falling, although to me it's probably both the most desirable spec and the one with real provenance. Ah well, for a little intuition, a lot of spare space and a lot of spare cash...
If Audi are doing real world supercars, and Bugatti are doing hyper-mega-super cars, that's Lambo squeezed from both sides?
In terms of the article, I agree. This screams crowd funded concept car. It's an aventador in a posh frock, and are Lambos really that collectable? Look at the Gallardo Balboni's value falling, although to me it's probably both the most desirable spec and the one with real provenance. Ah well, for a little intuition, a lot of spare space and a lot of spare cash...
If Audi are doing real world supercars, and Bugatti are doing hyper-mega-super cars, that's Lambo squeezed from both sides?
Fire99 said:
I think one of the downsides of being owned by a giant like VAG, is the number of influences dictating Lamborghini's line-up.
I think Lamborghini's identity has got a little lost in one too many board meetings.
This. Definitely get the feeling that VAG board spend more time worrying about where Lambo fits in to VAG vertically, than their position against the competition horizontally. I think Lamborghini's identity has got a little lost in one too many board meetings.
Their 'strong position' risks becoming a 'strong prison'.
Two hangars full of unsold Gallardos?
In what colour / spec? I'd have imagined Sant'Agata, even in this Audi owned day and age won't have overproduced Gallardos to this scale. Infact, given how much german companies espouse JustInTime manufacturing etc, I'd be surprised if a chassis was even started without a customer deposit.
In what colour / spec? I'd have imagined Sant'Agata, even in this Audi owned day and age won't have overproduced Gallardos to this scale. Infact, given how much german companies espouse JustInTime manufacturing etc, I'd be surprised if a chassis was even started without a customer deposit.
Why is there such consternation about a Gallardo replacement? Porsche have got away with the "just replacing the front bumper" type approach on the 911 for decades 
I think it was a carefully considered and quite shrewd marketing move to take the Veneno to Geneva - got the media attention, no need for ongoing marketing or development costs and all three sold - job done!
The Aventador is a massively popular machine for Lamborghini and they not only afforded to bring out the Aventador J but we have the Aventador roadster too. This doesn't smack of a company in financial trouble to me. There's no way the VW group would allow these micro volume machines to exist if Lambo were in dire financial straits.
I hope they find the will to focus on pursuing the 4 door sector and bring out something like the Estoque. I don't see any problem with them pursuing the newer markets for them whilst they are enjoying the success of the full order book for the Aventador, even if it does just mean a new front bumper for such an already fine quality machine as the Gallardo.
I think it was a carefully considered and quite shrewd marketing move to take the Veneno to Geneva - got the media attention, no need for ongoing marketing or development costs and all three sold - job done!The Aventador is a massively popular machine for Lamborghini and they not only afforded to bring out the Aventador J but we have the Aventador roadster too. This doesn't smack of a company in financial trouble to me. There's no way the VW group would allow these micro volume machines to exist if Lambo were in dire financial straits.
I hope they find the will to focus on pursuing the 4 door sector and bring out something like the Estoque. I don't see any problem with them pursuing the newer markets for them whilst they are enjoying the success of the full order book for the Aventador, even if it does just mean a new front bumper for such an already fine quality machine as the Gallardo.
Edited by rgw2012 on Monday 11th March 14:54
I actually think it was a savvy move from Lambo. I'm sure there will be a Gallardo replacement but for a year or so everyone knew Geneva would be the 'F Car' show.
Lambo reacted by making a low production, highly profitable car which stole the mainstream media spotlight from Ferrari. Minimal effort, maximum result.
Lambo reacted by making a low production, highly profitable car which stole the mainstream media spotlight from Ferrari. Minimal effort, maximum result.
rgw2012 said:
Why is there such consternation about a Gallardo replacement? Porsche have got away with the "just replacing the front bumper" type approach on the 911 for decades
Lamborghini has tried that with the updated Gallardo and failed miserably. What an ugly car it has become.vincegail said:
rgw2012 said:
Why is there such consternation about a Gallardo replacement? Porsche have got away with the "just replacing the front bumper" type approach on the 911 for decades
Lamborghini has tried that with the updated Gallardo and failed miserably. What an ugly car it has become.To be fair, until the advent of the Gallardo, Lamborghini was never really a big player in that junior supercar bracket. Ferrari shifted thousands of 246/308/328/348/355s, compared to the handfuls of Uraccos, Silhouettes and Jalpas that trickled out of the gates of St Agata. Maybe they're just reverting to type?
Dr Z said:
F-Stop Junkie said:
On a point of semantics, macro is the opposite of micro. So a if the LFA was a micro-volume car for Toyota, then the Yaris is a macro-volume car.
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