RE: New BMW 1 M Coupe planned

[161BMW]

aeropilot said:

It has a warranty and is newer....kinda obvious really!

Anyone considering a 1M isn't going to be looking at a 10 year E46CS as an alternative.
Likewise, anyone looking for a CS probably actually wants a CS, and wouldn't consider a 1M on the basis of the price differential.

Actually CS was 2005-2006
And is available with BMW Insured Warranty
And comes with an award winning enginr

[russy01]

Since when has 45k miles been high miles on a 6year old car. I went into the ad expecting 80-100k.

[ChrisBuer]

161BMW said:

Actually CS was 2005-2006
And is available with BMW Insured Warranty
And comes with an award winning enginr

I think the M3 CS is a lovely car, don't get me wrong, but I never considered one when I bought the 1M.

I know the 1M doesn't have the hand-built "M engine", but it's a cracker of a car. It's never going to sound like a M3 CS, but you know what, that really doesn't bother me. I'd take the option of more performance (torque / power) over sound.

Plus, the 1M has an award winning engine as well

"The N54 has won five straight International Engine of the Year awards and three straight Ward's 10 Best Engines awards"

[BeirutTaxi]

The whole badge thing really doesn't matter. A nicely styled, innovative, and greatly engineered car is what counts.

[cerb4.5lee]

ChrisBuer said:

- Same power, but more torque
- Easier to tune.
- Faster (especially when mapped)
- Newer
- Better fuel consumption (slightly)

This is what appeals to me so much about the 1M, my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me but this isn't a problem in the 1M, I just wish I could get on with the looks I've seen one in the metal & they look really aggressive which I love it's just the lights I struggle with a little.

[Mermaid]

cerb4.5lee said:

This is what appeals to me so much about the 1M, my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me but this isn't a problem in the 1M, I just wish I could get on with the looks I've seen one in the metal & they look really aggressive which I love it's just the lights I struggle with a little.

The new M3/M4 promises to be awesome.

[Debaser]

161BMW said:

I don't get what all the fuss is about a 1M Coupe. What can this do that a M3 CS Coupe cannot.

BMW don't build second hand cars so it's quite important for them to keep selling new ones.

[BeirutTaxi]

Debaser said:

161BMW said:

I don't get what all the fuss is about a 1M Coupe. What can this do that a M3 CS Coupe cannot.

BMW don't build second hand cars so it's quite important for them to keep selling new ones.

At last, someone with intelligence!

[mlhj83]

cerb4.5lee said:

my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me

Select a lower gear and all will be well, don't need to rev it hard either .

As it is, around urban roads, up to 4500rpm in 2nd or 3rd (manual/dct) is more than sufficient to make rapid progress. I've travelled with mine, fully loaded with blokes and luggage, from London to halfway up Norway, and I have not found any lack of power for multi-vehicle overtakes, as long as you are in the right gear for your intended amount of acceleration. Obviously, on track, I just let it rip . Not saying more torque isn't nice but M did a good job in making the E9X M3 a well balanced car. It's already hard enough not to break traction with the existing power.

That said, the M2, M3 and M4 are going to be cracking cars.

Edited by mlhj83 on Thursday 14th March 18:55

[Amirhussain]

roystinho said:

Love the 1M in valencia orange.

Check out this Dakar Yellow one looks very





http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67...

[161BMW]

BeirutTaxi said:

At last, someone with intelligence!

As a used buy a CS makes far more sense

[cerb4.5lee]

Mermaid said:

cerb4.5lee said:

This is what appeals to me so much about the 1M, my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me but this isn't a problem in the 1M, I just wish I could get on with the looks I've seen one in the metal & they look really aggressive which I love it's just the lights I struggle with a little.

The new M3/M4 promises to be awesome.

Yes I agree exciting times ahead!

[cerb4.5lee]

mlhj83 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me

Select a lower gear and all will be well, don't need to rev it hard either .

As it is, around urban roads, up to 4500rpm in 2nd or 3rd (manual/dct) is more than sufficient to make rapid progress. I've travelled with mine, fully loaded with blokes and luggage, from London to halfway up Norway, and I have not found any lack of power for multi-vehicle overtakes, as long as you are in the right gear for your intended amount of acceleration. Obviously, on track, I just let it rip . Not saying more torque isn't nice but M did a good job in making the E9X M3 a well balanced car. It's already hard enough not to break traction with the existing power.

That said, the M2, M3 and M4 are going to be cracking cars.

Edited by mlhj83 on Thursday 14th March 18:55

The M3 is a superb allrounder & it is early days for me but this car puts a massive smile on my face like I could have never imagined the engine is so flexible as you have described & is more than capable of delivering the goods I just sometimes compare the torque to my old cerb unfairly!

The future M cars should be really exciting I can't wait to see what they can do.

[aeropilot]

161BMW said:

BeirutTaxi said:

At last, someone with intelligence!

As a used buy a CS makes far more sense

Maybe to you personally, but it won't to a hell of a lot of others, incl me.

I'd have a used 1M over a CS anyday.

[Friggerpants]

161BMW said:

But say a M3 CS is at £15k and a 1M at £40k u cannot honestly say is worth £20-25k more

Suppose big plus point is u can have BMW Performance brakes I think and other Performance goodies on 1M

Defo rather have a nice M3 CSL over a 1M Coupe but sure they all be good fun whichever u choose

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Might as well compare a GT3RS 4.0 to an older version, and ask if price increase is worth it.

[PKZ4M]

I had a new M3 CS back in 2006 and loved it, changed to an V8 M3 manual in 2007, and loved it more..... Now have a 1M and love it most! Difficult to explain why..... turbo torque helps, as does cartoon styling and rarity..... In truth they're all cracking cars..... If I had enough money and a big enough garage I'd have one of each and a Z3M Coupe and a Z4M Coupe...

I bet M2, M4 etc will all be great too......

Off to buy a lottery ticket!

Edited by PKZ4M on Thursday 14th March 19:47

[Debaser]

161BMW said:

As a used buy a CS makes far more sense

As a used buy a Lamborghini makes far more sense.

[161BMW]

PKZ4M said:

I had a new M3 CS back in 2006 and loved it, changed to an V8 M3 manual in 2007, and loved it more..... Now have a 1M and love it most! Difficult to explain why..... turbo torque helps, as does cartoon styling and rarity..... In truth they're all cracking cars..... If I had enough money and a big enough garage I'd have one of each and a Z3M Coupe and a Z4M Coupe...

I bet M2, M4 etc will all be great too......

Off to buy a lottery ticket!

Edited by PKZ4M on Thursday 14th March 19:47

Fair play good to have someone opinion who owned them all. Was your CS manual or SMG ?

[PKZ4M]

CS was a manual as was the V8.....

Only gearbox I didn't get on with was the Z4M which was a bit too notchy for me....

[mlhj83]

cerb4.5lee said:

mlhj83 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

my E92 M3 lacks a little bit of low down torque for me

Select a lower gear and all will be well, don't need to rev it hard either .

As it is, around urban roads, up to 4500rpm in 2nd or 3rd (manual/dct) is more than sufficient to make rapid progress. I've travelled with mine, fully loaded with blokes and luggage, from London to halfway up Norway, and I have not found any lack of power for multi-vehicle overtakes, as long as you are in the right gear for your intended amount of acceleration. Obviously, on track, I just let it rip . Not saying more torque isn't nice but M did a good job in making the E9X M3 a well balanced car. It's already hard enough not to break traction with the existing power.

That said, the M2, M3 and M4 are going to be cracking cars.

Edited by mlhj83 on Thursday 14th March 18:55

The M3 is a superb allrounder & it is early days for me but this car puts a massive smile on my face like I could have never imagined the engine is so flexible as you have described & is more than capable of delivering the goods I just sometimes compare the torque to my old cerb unfairly!

The future M cars should be really exciting I can't wait to see what they can do.

Enjoy your car! I certainly enjoy mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBlN5V5Hf5s