SLEEPERS! Anyone have a street sleeper here?

SLEEPERS! Anyone have a street sleeper here?

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xcseventy

394 posts

77 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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Couple of interesting ones for sale:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265776767769?hash=item3...


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314066378637?hash=item4...

I don't know much about either Honda or Mercs, but reckon they tick the box!


Turkish91

1,088 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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That EG9 is in fantastic condition. Quite rare to see a supercharged B16 in it too, most of the fast ones you see have been K-swapped

Missy Charm

750 posts

29 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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xcseventy said:
Couple of interesting ones for sale:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265776767769?hash=item3...


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314066378637?hash=item4...

I don't know much about either Honda or Mercs, but reckon they tick the box!
The Merc does, yes, although that generation is notorious for rusting and the condition of the car is perhaps cause for concern.

The Civic doesn't, at least doesn't quite. It's fairly obviously modified, at least to those who can remember what normal ones look like. It has been lowered quite significantly and there have been alterations to the bodywork at the rear. It's subtle, but it's not trying to look like a standard issue car.

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

40 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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A guy on here had one, blew the engine up twice and smoked more than pat Butcher, might be a sleeper parked up, but is a freight train on the move.

Pommy

14,265 posts

217 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Missy Charm said:
xcseventy said:
Couple of interesting ones for sale:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265776767769?hash=item3...


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314066378637?hash=item4...

I don't know much about either Honda or Mercs, but reckon they tick the box!
The Merc does, yes, although that generation is notorious for rusting and the condition of the car is perhaps cause for concern.

The Civic doesn't, at least doesn't quite. It's fairly obviously modified, at least to those who can remember what normal ones look like. It has been lowered quite significantly and there have been alterations to the bodywork at the rear. It's subtle, but it's not trying to look like a standard issue car.
The Civic comment is all that is wrong with this thread.

The definition has been so narrowed to basically a standard slow car with 500bhp that no minor deviation if styling seems to be allowed.

You cannot stick a load of extra power into a car that is not designed for it without modifying it to some degree for safety at least.

That Civic has a spoiler and has been lowered yet it's not quite a sleeper even though it's the archetypal old persons car and it's running 260bhp? bks. If you came up behind that you'd just think it was some crappily modified students car before it sodded off up the road.




SlimJim16v

5,686 posts

144 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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I'm probably one of the biggest critics of supposed sleepers.
So, the Merc, almost, though the wheels and tyres fill the arches a bit too much for a car of that age.
The Honda, almost, the rear ride hight is a bit too low, ignoring the tyres.
I have been modifying cars for over 40 years though, so not your average person, but even I would probably be surprised by these.

e-honda

8,919 posts

147 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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I wouldn't notice that civic is modified.
It does look a little off but the rear plate just makes it look like an import, very common for jap cars that age and those civic saloons weren't all that common so if you told me it was a standard Japanese model I would have no reason to doubt it unless I took a real close look and saw the brakes.

Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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RB Will said:
Is always a bit worrying when you see someone go big power and standard brakes on a non performance car.

I’ve got just over 500bhp in my Impreza and have upgraded to big discs and AP racing 6 pots. I saw the same model with similar power for sale the other day on the original brakes.
They couldn’t cope with the abuse as standard let alone regular stops from much higher speeds
Only matters if you use the performance on the road.

I've noticed that as I get old, I use my brakes less. Taking my foot off the accelerator pedal a little bit earlier, seems to work well. My brake pads last ages.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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e-honda said:
I wouldn't notice that civic is modified.
It does look a little off but the rear plate just makes it look like an import, very common for jap cars that age and those civic saloons weren't all that common so if you told me it was a standard Japanese model I would have no reason to doubt it unless I took a real close look and saw the brakes.
This. Calling that Civic "obviously modified" is absolute pedantry.

Nobody other than the kind of weirdo who spends their day examining every car they pass would call that "obvious".

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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C70R said:
e-honda said:
I wouldn't notice that civic is modified.
It does look a little off but the rear plate just makes it look like an import, very common for jap cars that age and those civic saloons weren't all that common so if you told me it was a standard Japanese model I would have no reason to doubt it unless I took a real close look and saw the brakes.
This. Calling that Civic "obviously modified" is absolute pedantry.

Nobody other than the kind of weirdo who spends their day examining every car they pass would call that "obvious".
It's obviously not the way it came out of the factory as it sits too low, but for me it's still a sleeper.

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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They're both definitely excellent candidates for sleepers.

The merc would be perfect with standard wheels but even as is, no-one will expect that to be quick. Wheelarches are reassuringly rusty. hehe

Honda just needs ride height raising an inch.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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PH User said:
C70R said:
e-honda said:
I wouldn't notice that civic is modified.
It does look a little off but the rear plate just makes it look like an import, very common for jap cars that age and those civic saloons weren't all that common so if you told me it was a standard Japanese model I would have no reason to doubt it unless I took a real close look and saw the brakes.
This. Calling that Civic "obviously modified" is absolute pedantry.

Nobody other than the kind of weirdo who spends their day examining every car they pass would call that "obvious".
It's obviously not the way it came out of the factory as it sits too low, but for me it's still a sleeper.
It's only "obvious" to the tiny population of car bores.

The Rotrex Kid

30,344 posts

161 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Turkish91 said:
That EG9 is in fantastic condition. Quite rare to see a supercharged B16 in it too, most of the fast ones you see have been K-swapped
Yes, a proper rarity, that JR charger is super rare on it's own, never mind the rest of the car.

You can probably remember when Kadir took his B16 out and put in a K20, that was a very expensive swap at the time!!

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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C70R said:
It's only "obvious" to the tiny population of car bores.
Pistonheads.com...probably no car bores on that site scratchchin

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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C70R said:
PH User said:
C70R said:
e-honda said:
I wouldn't notice that civic is modified.
It does look a little off but the rear plate just makes it look like an import, very common for jap cars that age and those civic saloons weren't all that common so if you told me it was a standard Japanese model I would have no reason to doubt it unless I took a real close look and saw the brakes.
This. Calling that Civic "obviously modified" is absolute pedantry.

Nobody other than the kind of weirdo who spends their day examining every car they pass would call that "obvious".
It's obviously not the way it came out of the factory as it sits too low, but for me it's still a sleeper.
It's only "obvious" to the tiny population of car bores.
It looks lower than a normal one, we can all see that.

e-honda

8,919 posts

147 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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I don't think it looks lower, the real wheel looks a bit funny in the arch probably because it is lower but doesn't necessarily look lowered
Maybe it would be a bit more or less obvious in real life

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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e-honda said:
I don't think it looks lower, the real wheel looks a bit funny in the arch probably because it is lower but doesn't necessarily look lowered
Maybe it would be a bit more or less obvious in real life
If you look again you can see that the front looks lower as well, it looks like it has 4 fat blokes sitting in it!

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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e-honda said:
I don't think it looks lower, the real wheel looks a bit funny in the arch probably because it is lower but doesn't necessarily look lowered
Maybe it would be a bit more or less obvious in real life

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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trails said:
C70R said:
It's only "obvious" to the tiny population of car bores.
Pistonheads.com...probably no car bores on that site scratchchin
It's that classic thing of lacking self awareness.

PH represents a minuscule slither of the population, but so many people here assume that Joe Public thinks the same way they do.

PH User

22,154 posts

109 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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C70R said:
trails said:
C70R said:
It's only "obvious" to the tiny population of car bores.
Pistonheads.com...probably no car bores on that site scratchchin
It's that classic thing of lacking self awareness.

PH represents a minuscule slither of the population, but so many people here assume that Joe Public thinks the same way they do.
I didn't mention non car people, just what I thought.

So do you think it looks like its at a factory ride height?