Don't park your unregistered van in an airport car park...

Don't park your unregistered van in an airport car park...

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simoid

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19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-223743...

"Controlled explosions have been carried out on a van in Gatwick Airport's North Terminal car park... officers are now looking for two men who entered the car park in the untaxed, uninsured and unregistered van."

Zyp

14,707 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Or more to the point, don't drive your unregistered, untaxed and uninsured van on the roads.


premio

1,020 posts

165 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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I saw the bomb disposal lorry with lights on on the M25 heading towards gatwick around 6pm today and wondered what was going on!

Magog

2,652 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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They should probably check if the new owners are having the runway resurfaced.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Bizarre story, especially pushing up the barrier to get in.

But, unregistered doesn't mean it's uninsured and untaxed and shouldn't be driven on the road.

Zyp

14,707 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Roo said:
But, unregistered doesn't mean it's uninsured and untaxed and shouldn't be driven on the road.
It does in this instance, because its untaxed and uninsured so shouldn't be on the road.

I think blowing it up is justified smile

RacerMDR

5,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Scumbag terrorists testing the system?

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Zyp said:
Roo said:
But, unregistered doesn't mean it's uninsured and untaxed and shouldn't be driven on the road.
It does in this instance, because its untaxed and uninsured so shouldn't be on the road.

I think blowing it up is justified smile
So if I take an unregistered car out of my showroom and drive it you claim it's untaxed and uninsured?

simoid

Original Poster:

19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Roo said:
Zyp said:
Roo said:
But, unregistered doesn't mean it's uninsured and untaxed and shouldn't be driven on the road.
It does in this instance, because its untaxed and uninsured so shouldn't be on the road.

I think blowing it up is justified smile
So if I take an unregistered car out of my showroom and drive it you claim it's untaxed and uninsured?
Is that a serious question...?

Am I due a whoosh!?

Zyp

14,707 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Roo said:
Zyp said:
Roo said:
But, unregistered doesn't mean it's uninsured and untaxed and shouldn't be driven on the road.
It does in this instance, because its untaxed and uninsured so shouldn't be on the road.

I think blowing it up is justified smile
So if I take an unregistered car out of my showroom and drive it you claim it's untaxed and uninsured?
No, I'd assume you would use trade plates to show its insured.

In this instance the van has been found to be unregistered, untaxed and uninsured.
Its written there, in black and white.
Who are we to disbelieve it?

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Odds are it will just be in between keepers, rather than unregistered as in "brand new". If a car is "in the trade" it comes up with no keeper on ANPR searches.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Of course an unregistered vehicle will show up as having no tax or insurance. Mainly due to the lack of registration number.

You said an unregistered untaxed uninsured vehicle shouldn't be on the road. I said there is no correlation between those points.

If I use trade plates to cover me for road tax on an unregistered vehicle it's taxed but doesn't show on any database. My trade insurance will cover me but the vehicle won't show on any database.

Therefore, contrary to what you said, an unregistered vehicle does not mean it is untaxed and uninsured and should not be used on the road.

Zyp

14,707 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Roo said:
Of course an unregistered vehicle will show up as having no tax or insurance. Mainly due to the lack of registration number.

You said an unregistered untaxed uninsured vehicle shouldn't be on the road. I said there is no correlation between those points.

If I use trade plates to cover me for road tax on an unregistered vehicle it's taxed but doesn't show on any database. My trade insurance will cover me but the vehicle won't show on any database.

Therefore, contrary to what you said, an unregistered vehicle does not mean it is untaxed and uninsured and should not be used on the road.
Bit of a pedantic bugger aren't you, Rupie?

I think you know my original statement was with regards to this story, but carry on if you wish.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Zyp said:
Bit of a pedantic bugger aren't you, Rupie?

I think you know my original statement was with regards to this story, but carry on if you wish.
Who's Rupie?

If you wish to think that the fact that a vehicle is unregistered means it is also untaxed and uninsured you carry on.

Zyp

14,707 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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I rather suspect in this case the Police would've done their checks to find just that out.

But I bow to your superior knowledge, obviously having been at Gatwick airport when it happened.

Was it your van?

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Roo said:
Zyp said:
Bit of a pedantic bugger aren't you, Rupie?

I think you know my original statement was with regards to this story, but carry on if you wish.
Who's Rupie?

If you wish to think that the fact that a vehicle is unregistered means it is also untaxed and uninsured you carry on.
The vehicle is though; the insurance and tax is on the trade plate. As soon as the trade plate is off the vehicle, or the vehicle is used for something that the trade plate is not licenced for, it's untaxed and uninsured. And according to the guidance:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/forms/~/media/pdf/leafl...

Trade plated cars can't be left on the road (for the purposes of the law a public car park is the road), so yes, this vehicle would have been untaxed and uninsured even if it had a trade plate on it. You carry on though.

yellowyellow

470 posts

231 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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I drove into Heathrow airport and parked up in one of the short stay car parks recently and on returning to my car noticed the reg plates had been half inched. At first I thought it might have happened there but of course realised. Why would someone be so stupid to chose one of the most security conscience places on the planet to nick stuff?

I called the police and eventually found out via ANPR that I had entered the area plateless, they had been stolen from my driveway. :O I hadn't noticed, just jumped in my car and drove off. Cops didn't seem fussed at all that I had to drive home with no plates and didn't even tell me to get them replaced pronto just gave me a crime #. biggrin

simoid

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19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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yellowyellow said:
I drove into Heathrow airport and parked up in one of the short stay car parks recently and on returning to my car noticed the reg plates had been half inched. At first I thought it might have happened there but of course realised. Why would someone be so stupid to chose one of the most security conscience places on the planet to nick stuff?

I called the police and eventually found out via ANPR that I had entered the area plateless, they had been stolen from my driveway. :O I hadn't noticed, just jumped in my car and drove off. Cops didn't seem fussed at all that I had to drive home with no plates and didn't even tell me to get them replaced pronto just gave me a crime #. biggrin
Your FPN is in the post hehe

yellowyellow

470 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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Just waiting for the parking, speeding tickets and bilking convictions! eek

Some Gump

12,714 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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I wish i could go for a pint with roo. I bet he's a right laugh.