Using phone while driving
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Driving while using a handsfree cellular device is not safer than using a hand held cell phone, as concluded by case-crossover studies.[19][20] epidemiological,[1][2] simulation,[9] and meta-analysis.[11][12] The increased cognitive workload involved in holding a conversation, not the use of hands, causes the increased risk.[21][22][23] For example, a Carnegie Mellon University study found that merely listening to somebody speak on a phone caused a 37% drop in activity in the parietal lobe, where spatial tasks are managed.[24] The consistency of increased crash risk between hands-free and hand held cell phone use is at odds with legislation in many locations that prohibits hand held cell phone use but allows hands-free.
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Finlandia said:
But they didn't get it right.
Studies show that using hands-free is just as attention distracting as holding the phone in your hand, and being parked by the side of the road with the engine on while making a handheld call is in no way distracting, yet it carries a penalty.
There's definitely a couple of factors that effect how distracted you are. One is the physical side, for example trying to hold a phone whilst negotiating a complicated junction in a manual gearbox car. Studies show that using hands-free is just as attention distracting as holding the phone in your hand, and being parked by the side of the road with the engine on while making a handheld call is in no way distracting, yet it carries a penalty.
The other is how involving and distracting the conversation is. So in effect even you are hands, should the conversation be more advanced than say "hi, running late, cant talk, I'm driving". Then you really need to stop IMO.
Vipers said:
So to get it right, ban using a phone whilst driving, hand held or not, is that the answer? Not that it would worry me, if it's safer, it's worthwhile.
Have a look at my post made a minute earlier, but it seems like a total ban or a scrapping of the law would be the right thing to do. By all means, texting should be illegal in busy traffic at least, but a call is as distracting on hands-free as on handheld, so the law isn't really dealing with the real issue.Finlandia said:
Vipers said:
So to get it right, ban using a phone whilst driving, hand held or not, is that the answer? Not that it would worry me, if it's safer, it's worthwhile.
Have a look at my post made a minute earlier, but it seems like a total ban or a scrapping of the law would be the right thing to do. By all means, texting should be illegal in busy traffic at least, but a call is as distracting on hands-free as on handheld, so the law isn't really dealing with the real issue.interloper said:
There's definitely a couple of factors that effect how distracted you are. One is the physical side, for example trying to hold a phone whilst negotiating a complicated junction in a manual gearbox car.
The other is how involving and distracting the conversation is. So in effect even you are hands, should the conversation be more advanced than say "hi, running late, cant talk, I'm driving". Then you really need to stop IMO.
But then walkie talkies are legal, even in manual cars, how is that any different to holding a mobile?The other is how involving and distracting the conversation is. So in effect even you are hands, should the conversation be more advanced than say "hi, running late, cant talk, I'm driving". Then you really need to stop IMO.
Which is the real issue, you can natter away all you like on hands-free and be oblivious to anything happening around you, but stop by the side of the road to make a call and you may get fined for holding a phone while stationary.
glazbagun said:
Yep! An old Nokia with a few button presses that were lodged in muscle memory. Texting that I'd be late for work. Also lodged in muscle memory. 
Regarding talking on the phone, you only have to walk behind someone on a mobile to realise the affect it has on many people's situational awareness- they're all over the place!
Not for me. I consider myself a good walker, and have never crashed while texting and doing so. Regarding talking on the phone, you only have to walk behind someone on a mobile to realise the affect it has on many people's situational awareness- they're all over the place!
Captain Cadillac said:
Biggest pet peeve of mine is seeing people in cars that have factory Bluetooth but are still jabbering into their phones.
Just this evening there's some idiot in a Lexus RX who's holding his phone up, and driving like a puts, all the while his car has Bluetooth.
Idiots. All of em.
I have Bluetooth in my car and use but still find it too distracting so I'm trying to use it less.Just this evening there's some idiot in a Lexus RX who's holding his phone up, and driving like a puts, all the while his car has Bluetooth.
Idiots. All of em.
steve j said:
405dogvan said:
No need to do that - just take the phone number and attach it to a high-cost porno line - that'll teach em
"[Offenders name] is a complete idiot who drives whilst making calls - his number has been redirected until 50 separate callers hear this message" [repeats]
With the junk calls I get, I'd have my phone back in 2 days
And here It is again, telling us how the biker was speeding and no mention of a phone....
Not from facebook though, so probably not real, because let's face facts, facebook is THE site to go to for accurate info and stories.
http://www.fullthrottlemcsac.com/gpage2.html
Not from facebook though, so probably not real, because let's face facts, facebook is THE site to go to for accurate info and stories.
http://www.fullthrottlemcsac.com/gpage2.html
Dusty964 said:
And here It is again, telling us how the biker was speeding and no mention of a phone....
Not from facebook though, so probably not real, because let's face facts, facebook is THE site to go to for accurate info and stories.
http://www.fullthrottlemcsac.com/gpage2.html
Very interesting............ What to believe.Not from facebook though, so probably not real, because let's face facts, facebook is THE site to go to for accurate info and stories.
http://www.fullthrottlemcsac.com/gpage2.html
Finlandia said:
Which is the real issue, you can natter away all you like on hands-free and be oblivious to anything happening around you, but stop by the side of the road to make a call and you may get fined for holding a phone while stationary.
How are you oblivious to anything happening around you if you are on hands-free? Do you stop passengers talking to you if they're in the car? If I get a call on my hands-free I press a button on my indicator stalk to answer and hang up, I don't have to hunt around for my phone, pick it up, find the button to press to answer it and then hold it up to my ear for however long the call takes. My hands never leave the steering wheel and my eyes never leave the road.
In the early days of mobile phones I'll admit that I had a few heart-stopping moments because I was messing around with my phone while driving, and that was bloody idiotic.
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