Using phone while driving

Using phone while driving

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ch108

1,127 posts

134 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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m3jappa said:
If you can't drive and hold a phone to your ear you should t be fking driving IMO. It's incredible how people are conditioned to truly believe its very dangerous.
I do agree that some who do it are lethal though so I suppose we all get treated the same.

It's the texting or looki g at Facebook though that should be targeted, they are dangerous!
Would be interested to know how you safely negotiate something like a roundabout while having to steer and change gear while having a phone to your ear? Think you've got it wrong way round. Folk that do drive while on the phone should be banned from the road. Whether you think so or not you are endangering other drivers because you aren't in control of your car, or at very least not concentrating on your driving.

Vipers

32,909 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Cliftonite said:
threespires said:
It's legal in black 4x4's as we are much better drivers. I do it all the time.
Only Audi drivers have this dispensation, I believe.
And TVR's I believe biggrin




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Vipers

32,909 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Even without using the phone, driving needs a high degree of concentration, and skill.

Not that we all have it, otherwise there wouldn't be any need for Sally traffic, she would have no accidents to tell us about biggrin




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R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Vipers said:
Even without using the phone, driving needs a high degree of concentration, and skill.
Which means that using it takes X amount of concentration away from that task - that seems to be the main point which is missed in all these discussions

That applies to hands free as well as hand held

Vipers

32,909 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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R0G said:
Vipers said:
Even without using the phone, driving needs a high degree of concentration, and skill.
Which means that using it takes X amount of concentration away from that task - that seems to be the main point which is missed in all these discussions

That applies to hands free as well as hand held
I agree. Many times the OH is yapping away, something ahead happens, maybe brake lights coming on, or a bunch joining the motorway and I switch off to concentrate on the road conditions ahead, then she says "Did you hear what I said", and obviously I didn't.

Yes you could argue an empty morning motorway is safe for a driver to use a hand held phone whilst doing a ton plus with one hand on the wheel, and it's difficult to argue against that, but rules are made for the general public in general conditions.

Some seem not to understand that.




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Escort3500

11,925 posts

146 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Those idiots who use mobiles while driving will continue risk 3 points and £60. Even a £1000 fine wouldn't deter some. The only solution IMHO is 6 points... Second strike and you're banned etc...

m3jappa

6,444 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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I don't do it, not because I'm not capable of holding my ear and speaking but because I'm so fking scared of either getting caught and getting points which would lead to me being banned from driving on the road for speaking and holding my ear or much more sinister I wouldn't want to be involved in an accident because if you we're it would be equivalent to murder.

I still think its bad driving made worse by people on phones and not being on the phone itself being the problem.

Texting as I said IS bad as people actually take their eyes off the road and totally lose concentration.

Regarding the comment about negotiating a roundabout well that's a little different to normal driving as there are lots of things going on, much more than say the m1. Someone with any sense just wouldn't so it, time and a place and all that.

IMO there's lots of people who drive in auto mode, not even knowing where they are or how they get to their destination, they just jump in and follow sat nav (which IMO IS worse than using a phone as its distracting especially if your somewhere like central London with lots of distractions). These people are those who just don't see potential dangers ahead, I'm not saying I'm a driving god, infact I usually find those who say 'but im a good driver' to be the worst. But the auto mode people are fking lethal, singing along to their favourite song while not even thinking about the road ahead.

A9XXC

621 posts

150 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Subbeh said:
garyhun said:
Nothing to do with conditioning, everything to do with observing the diabolically bad driving by people on the phone.
Absolutely, it's amazing how often I see a bit of terrible driving then notice the driver in question is on the phone. I don't
need research and statistics to confirm what I see on the road every day.
Exactly!

Fastdruid

8,662 posts

153 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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swerni said:
Dusty964 said:
It's really not that difficult to make a call and drive though.
It's easy.

I shout at my car, a German bird speaks politely back and as if by magic the phones dials out.
Yeah, I tried that. It set the climate control to maximum.

I tried again. She said sorry lots and dialled the wrong number.

I gave up and used the buttons on the steering wheel to browse my phonebook and dialled from there.

Apart from the voice activation the built-in bluetooth is fantastic. Totally seamless, easy to use and I'm forever forgetting its on until the music mutes, phone rings and the dash displays "incoming call - answer/reject".




Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Froomee said:
Bluetooth is annoying as it keeps cutting in even if its a bad time to answer.

I usually leave it disconnected and if I need to answer then put it in my lap or answer and pull over at the earliest opportunity ( I.e. if a friend in the army is calling, late at night as it might be an emergency, etc)
I've no idea what you are saying here. If you have the phone connected via Bluetooth, it just rings and you decide whether to answer.

keemaklan

418 posts

151 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Some people exaggerate the risks of being on the phone far too much.

I have a friend who's always on the phone. Always put his phone to his ear or on loudspeaker and in his hand and has never been caught. One day, his phone rang. For some bizarre reason he decided to pull over and answer it...




A month later, a fixed penalty notice for £130 or £65 if paid within 2 weeks was delivered to his door.

Sods law.

He now carries on picking up the phone whilst driving.

Vipers

32,909 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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keemaklan said:
Some people exaggerate the risks of being on the phone far too much.

I have a friend who's always on the phone. Always put his phone to his ear or on loudspeaker and in his hand and has never been caught. One day, his phone rang. For some bizarre reason he decided to pull over and answer it...




A month later, a fixed penalty notice for £130 or £65 if paid within 2 weeks was delivered to his door.

Sods law.

He now carries on picking up the phone whilst driving.
Ho ho ho, your friend is an idiot, driving and always on the phone, what can one say, tt.

One day he may cause an accident resulting in a fatality, think about that.

BTW why must he must be always on the phone?




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Cliftonite

8,415 posts

139 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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keemaklan said:
Some people exaggerate the risks of being on the phone far too much.

I have a friend who's always on the phone. Always put his phone to his ear or on loudspeaker and in his hand and has never been caught. One day, his phone rang. For some bizarre reason he decided to pull over and answer it...




A month later, a fixed penalty notice for £130 or £65 if paid within 2 weeks was delivered to his door.

Sods law.

He now carries on picking up the phone whilst driving.
Why did he get an FPN if he pulled over to answer the 'phone? And why did it take a month for an FPN to arrive?

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Bohally

943 posts

148 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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I tend to find that I use the Parrot for calls in the car.

I probably concentrate more though. Rightly or wrongly.

bearman68

4,665 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Hard to use the phone when cycling - ended up in a holly bush one afternoon frown

marksbike

110 posts

167 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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I drove for years using a mobile before the law came in, and guess what, never crashed or died!

I believe if people who drive well, can have a conversation whilst driving. Its the people who find driving hard, or have to fully focus all their attention just to drive should stick to only driving.

How many bad drivers are out there which nearly caused an accident every time they get behind the wheel without the distraction of a phone to their ear.

marksbike

110 posts

167 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Of course everyone who is on the phone behind the wheel isn't driving bad because they are on the phone its because they are to busy looking out for the old bill!

Lotusevoraboy

937 posts

148 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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Working with youngsters I fear the next genertion of drivers will be truly reckless. They simply cannot put their fuking phones down.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd May 2013
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m3jappa said:
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If you can't drive and hold a phone to your ear you should t be fking driving IMO. It's incredible how people are conditioned to truly believe its very dangerous.
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It's still a distraction ! Your mindset will find even you out one day.

Distractions are dangerous no matter how good the driver and how easy to use a phone.

There are good reasons it is against the law. I do not need to see or read statistics. Several personal experiences by those using the phones whilst driving convince me that the likes of you and your mindset are fking dangerous! End of particularly if you drive a white van the way white vans of any colour are driven.

m3jappa

6,444 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th May 2013
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MGJohn said:
m3jappa said:
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If you can't drive and hold a phone to your ear you should t be fking driving IMO. It's incredible how people are conditioned to truly believe its very dangerous.
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It's still a distraction ! Your mindset will find even you out one day.

Distractions are dangerous no matter how good the driver and how easy to use a phone.

There are good reasons it is against the law. I do not need to see or read statistics. Several personal experiences by those using the phones whilst driving convince me that the likes of you and your mindset are fking dangerous! End of particularly if you drive a white van the way white vans of any colour are driven.
Wow calm down, and when did I say I did it, I just said I don't think it's that bad. I don't want points so I don't do it. And after probably half a million miles or so I have a clean licence thanks.

And yes because I drive a white van I must be bad, what a fking stupid thing to come back at me with. Just about sums up your mindset.